Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2005 12:42:34 +0000
To: avant-garde-driftline.org-AT-lists.driftline.org
From: Alastair Dickson <adickson-AT-stirmargrev.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [a-g] tourist


Chris Byrne <chris-AT-crowriver.net> wrote of the citizen:
>I meant as in 'resident of a city' (Chambers dictionary).
>
Citizen as resident is a very sedentary perspective, far from any idea
of citizenship as republican virtue, such as comes from the Greeks or
their C18 revival in Adam Fergusson, for example.  What is missing, I
think, is contestation. This takes us back to the Lasch text where this
fragmentary exchange on tourist vs citizen exchange began.  Lasch
presented a view of privileged elites congregating in the seaboard
cities. Their gated communities and the shopping mall are spaces without
any contestatory virtue.

>Okay, how about 'inn-keeper' instead? Someone has to accommodate all 
>the tourists...

The inn-keeper role is an interesting one.  I suspect many people on
this list fulfil this role frequently, but it is more like something
approaching an informal version of a medieval guild: fellow-
practitioners, friends-of-friends etc who have a project in your locale.
The visitors get a place to stay and logistical help. We all work
together, eat together, drink together, pledge future reciprocity and
everyone benefits from the interplay.  I see this as one of the great
virtues and something far more engaged than tourism.

[And with that I wish you all a virtuous 2005 and head off to a bit of
local contestation in our new year derby game against Alloa Athletic!]
>
>
>On 23 Dec 2004, at 10:56, Steven Snell wrote:
>
>> Oh come on Chris -- you can do better then that. ha. Everyone is a 
>> citizen. How about resident? Signpost? Viewing hours between 9 and 
>> 5...
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Byrne" <chris-AT-crowriver.net>
>> To: <avant-garde-driftline.org-AT-lists.driftline.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2004 1:36 AM
>> Subject: Re: [a-g] tourist
>>
>>
>>>
>>> On 26 Nov 2004, at 11:22, Steven Snell wrote:
>>>
>>>> All -
>>>>
>>>> A tourist is one who comes to visit your city; what are you (as in 
>>>> noun) in that city? This is not to suggest the opposite of tourist, 
>>>> a hermit perhaps, but one who is surrounded by tourists in his or 
>>>> her city -- we arn't all just travel guides! :)
>>>>
>>>> Steven
>>>
>>>
>>> Er... citizen?
>>>



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