File deleuze-guattari/deleuze-guattari.0411, message 20


Subject: Re: [D-G] drift line
Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2004 21:50:52 -0800
To: deleuze-guattari-driftline.org-AT-lists.driftline.org


klossowski

On Nov 20, 2004, at 7:58 PM, arisensilently-AT-fastmail.fm wrote:

> Ha ha ha.
> I live in India. So don't give me bullshit about poverty. I'm 
> surrounded
> by the dialectical aspirations of human existence every single day.
> Besides, if you understood what I said below, you'd see that we're not
> saying different things. I suppose you have a different opinion about
> this list though.
>
> On Sat, 20 Nov 2004 18:42:24 -0300 (ART), "psicopr"
> <psicopr-AT-yahoo.com.br> said:
>> ??????
>>
>> i understand this wright? one people making polemics, speaking in the
>> place of others?
>>
>> Some people live with less than 2 dollars per day, not like you. The
>> price of a book is very very very high in Brazil, and public or
>> communitary internet is a optional way to obtain some aprendice, or
>> texts, or new contacts with people, or learn how to read in english,
>> because dont have money to pay a course, or to pay a book. Not like =20
>> you,
>> who have your beautifull job, drinking whisky and saying "i=B4m a 
>> creator
>> of concepts", in the high of your...
>>
>> Judging me??? Making polemics with me??? Great concept creator! Great
>> creator of new modes of existence! "We are creators of concepts; and i
>> say, in the high of my position: you=B4re not! go out!"
>>
>> Well, i=B4m yes a learner, without money, agencing with others, turning
>> others, making other spaces with others, seeking new concepts to 
>> fight my
>> guerrilla, and not your war of polemics. I need this to live, to 
>> obtain
>> food day by day. Not like the judgers/priests who aclaim himselves
>> 'creators of concepts'
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> arisensilently-AT-fastmail.fm wrote:
>> Yeah right.
>> There are a few people who participate, who create and don't respond =20
>> to
>> anything else but themselves on this list.
>> txx
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: deleuze-guattari-driftline.org-bounces-AT-lists.driftline.org
>>> [mailto:deleuze-guattari-driftline.org-bounces-AT-lists.driftline.org]On
>>> Behalf Of adline vanlindenbergh
>>> Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2004 1:01 AM
>>> To: deleuze-guattari-driftline.org-AT-lists.driftline.org
>>> Subject: Re: [D-G] drift line
>>>
>>>
>>> is there no other insight for adventure than going into asking THIS
>>> here: this places is devoted to the creation of concepts, feellings, 
>>> and
>>> percepts, and the schizoanalysis of philosophy as done, both by 
>>> deleuze
>>> guattari foucault, but by the schizoanalysis of social field, the
>>> injection of social statements, machinique statements into philosophy
>>> art and science, it's the blossoming of a new civilsation and 
>>> reactive
>>> individuals like you should live in unversities and die there, the
>>> becoming non philosophical of their philosophy is that which l foster
>>> ways, modes of thoughts, enable us to constrcut a plane of 
>>> immannence.
>>> you statements are here part of the social flows mechaniscism 
>>> allowing
>>> special hidden pompuousity to babble. you are the objects of
>>> philosophy's analyisi, not students looking for book as a mask you =20
>>> use
>>> in your e-mail signifies and "communicates", entertain "internet" =20
>>> modern
>>> day capitalism. not paradox but truth. join us and create things, =20
>>> stop
>>> learning (whitehead said in modes of thoughts) performative, both
>>> foucault and delguat love performative in the language which is freed
>>> from what he has to say in a social field (universities, bookstores,
>>> propaganda of iconic deleuze, iconic satre, etc) you stuck, get away
>>> (please) these lists are for philosophy and creativity, invention of
>>> politics, and science, up to the difficulty of this cibvilisation, =20
>>> not
>>> your personal subscription to a paper you have to write for a random
>>> teacher of orders in the conceptuality. stop reinjecting reactivity =20
>>> to
>>> the real creative people we only have this place to mix and elaborate
>>> intelligente di
>>> On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 21:21:17 -0800, arisensilently-AT-fastmail.fm said:
>>>> Deleuze on Foucault: Critique and Power, recasting the 
>>>> Foucualt/Habermas
>>>> debate;edited by Michael Kelly, MIT press.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 19:16:06 -0300 (ART), "psicopr"
>>>>
>> said:
>>>>> I=B4m looking for some e-texts writed by Gilles Deleuze:
>>>>>
>>>>> "Qu'est-ce qu'un dispositif?", and "Foucault, Historien du présent"
>>>>>
>>>>> Can anyone help me, sending by reference or e-mail?
>>>>>
>>>>> regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Marcio
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Por entre as filas o Atrida corria, dando ordens diversas:
>>>>> 'Sede homens, caros amigos, e ardor demonstrai combativo!
>>>>> Possa o respeito rec=EDproco a todos na pugna dar =E2nimo.
>>>>> S=E3o mais poupados na guerra os que sabem morrer briosamente,
>>>>> ao passo que os fugitivos nem gl=F3ria obter=E3o, nem defesa'"
>>>>> Il=EDada, canto V
>>>>> http://www.geocities.com/bernardorieux
>>>>>
>>>>> ---------------------------------
>>>>> Yahoo! Acesso Gr=E1tis - Internet r=E1pida e gr=E1tis. Instale o discador
>>>>> agora!
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>> arisensilently-AT-fastmail.fm
>>
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>>
>> "Por entre as filas o Atrida corria, dando ordens diversas:
>> 'Sede homens, caros amigos, e ardor demonstrai combativo!
>> Possa o respeito rec=EDproco a todos na pugna dar =E2nimo.
>> S=E3o mais poupados na guerra os que sabem morrer briosamente,
>> ao passo que os fugitivos nem gl=F3ria obter=E3o, nem defesa'"
>> Il=EDada, canto V
>> http://www.geocities.com/bernardorieux
>> 	=09
>> ---------------------------------
>> Yahoo! Acesso Gr=E1tis - Internet r=E1pida e gr=E1tis. Instale o discador
>> agora!
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>
>   arisensilently-AT-fastmail.fm
>
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