From: Sylvie Ruelle <sylvieruelle-AT-earthlink.net> Subject: Re: [D-G] drift line Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2004 21:50:52 -0800 To: deleuze-guattari-driftline.org-AT-lists.driftline.org klossowski On Nov 20, 2004, at 7:58 PM, arisensilently-AT-fastmail.fm wrote: > Ha ha ha. > I live in India. So don't give me bullshit about poverty. I'm > surrounded > by the dialectical aspirations of human existence every single day. > Besides, if you understood what I said below, you'd see that we're not > saying different things. I suppose you have a different opinion about > this list though. > > On Sat, 20 Nov 2004 18:42:24 -0300 (ART), "psicopr" > <psicopr-AT-yahoo.com.br> said: >> ?????? >> >> i understand this wright? one people making polemics, speaking in the >> place of others? >> >> Some people live with less than 2 dollars per day, not like you. The >> price of a book is very very very high in Brazil, and public or >> communitary internet is a optional way to obtain some aprendice, or >> texts, or new contacts with people, or learn how to read in english, >> because dont have money to pay a course, or to pay a book. Not like =20 >> you, >> who have your beautifull job, drinking whisky and saying "i=B4m a >> creator >> of concepts", in the high of your... >> >> Judging me??? Making polemics with me??? Great concept creator! Great >> creator of new modes of existence! "We are creators of concepts; and i >> say, in the high of my position: you=B4re not! go out!" >> >> Well, i=B4m yes a learner, without money, agencing with others, turning >> others, making other spaces with others, seeking new concepts to >> fight my >> guerrilla, and not your war of polemics. I need this to live, to >> obtain >> food day by day. Not like the judgers/priests who aclaim himselves >> 'creators of concepts' >> >> >> >> >> arisensilently-AT-fastmail.fm wrote: >> Yeah right. >> There are a few people who participate, who create and don't respond =20 >> to >> anything else but themselves on this list. >> txx >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: deleuze-guattari-driftline.org-bounces-AT-lists.driftline.org >>> [mailto:deleuze-guattari-driftline.org-bounces-AT-lists.driftline.org]On >>> Behalf Of adline vanlindenbergh >>> Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2004 1:01 AM >>> To: deleuze-guattari-driftline.org-AT-lists.driftline.org >>> Subject: Re: [D-G] drift line >>> >>> >>> is there no other insight for adventure than going into asking THIS >>> here: this places is devoted to the creation of concepts, feellings, >>> and >>> percepts, and the schizoanalysis of philosophy as done, both by >>> deleuze >>> guattari foucault, but by the schizoanalysis of social field, the >>> injection of social statements, machinique statements into philosophy >>> art and science, it's the blossoming of a new civilsation and >>> reactive >>> individuals like you should live in unversities and die there, the >>> becoming non philosophical of their philosophy is that which l foster >>> ways, modes of thoughts, enable us to constrcut a plane of >>> immannence. >>> you statements are here part of the social flows mechaniscism >>> allowing >>> special hidden pompuousity to babble. you are the objects of >>> philosophy's analyisi, not students looking for book as a mask you =20 >>> use >>> in your e-mail signifies and "communicates", entertain "internet" =20 >>> modern >>> day capitalism. not paradox but truth. join us and create things, =20 >>> stop >>> learning (whitehead said in modes of thoughts) performative, both >>> foucault and delguat love performative in the language which is freed >>> from what he has to say in a social field (universities, bookstores, >>> propaganda of iconic deleuze, iconic satre, etc) you stuck, get away >>> (please) these lists are for philosophy and creativity, invention of >>> politics, and science, up to the difficulty of this cibvilisation, =20 >>> not >>> your personal subscription to a paper you have to write for a random >>> teacher of orders in the conceptuality. stop reinjecting reactivity =20 >>> to >>> the real creative people we only have this place to mix and elaborate >>> intelligente di >>> On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 21:21:17 -0800, arisensilently-AT-fastmail.fm said: >>>> Deleuze on Foucault: Critique and Power, recasting the >>>> Foucualt/Habermas >>>> debate;edited by Michael Kelly, MIT press. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 19:16:06 -0300 (ART), "psicopr" >>>> >> said: >>>>> I=B4m looking for some e-texts writed by Gilles Deleuze: >>>>> >>>>> "Qu'est-ce qu'un dispositif?", and "Foucault, Historien du présent" >>>>> >>>>> Can anyone help me, sending by reference or e-mail? >>>>> >>>>> regards, >>>>> >>>>> Marcio >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "Por entre as filas o Atrida corria, dando ordens diversas: >>>>> 'Sede homens, caros amigos, e ardor demonstrai combativo! >>>>> Possa o respeito rec=EDproco a todos na pugna dar =E2nimo. >>>>> S=E3o mais poupados na guerra os que sabem morrer briosamente, >>>>> ao passo que os fugitivos nem gl=F3ria obter=E3o, nem defesa'" >>>>> Il=EDada, canto V >>>>> http://www.geocities.com/bernardorieux >>>>> >>>>> --------------------------------- >>>>> Yahoo! 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Instale o discador >>>>> agora! >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> List address: deleuze-guattari-AT-driftline.org >>>>> Admin interface: >>>>> http://lists.driftline.org/listinfo.cgi/deleuze-guattari- >>>>> driftline.org >>>> -- >>>> >>>> arisensilently-AT-fastmail.fm >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> List address: deleuze-guattari-AT-driftline.org >>>> Admin interface: >>>> http://lists.driftline.org/listinfo.cgi/deleuze-guattari- >>>> driftline.org >>> -- >>> adline vanlindenbergh >>> bisouxnoursfast-AT-fastmail.fm >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> List address: deleuze-guattari-AT-driftline.org >>> Admin interface: >>> http://lists.driftline.org/listinfo.cgi/deleuze-guattari- >>> driftline.org >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> List address: deleuze-guattari-AT-driftline.org >>> Admin interface: >>> http://lists.driftline.org/listinfo.cgi/deleuze-guattari- >>> driftline.org >> -- >> >> arisensilently-AT-fastmail.fm >> >> _______________________________________________ >> List address: deleuze-guattari-AT-driftline.org >> Admin interface: >> http://lists.driftline.org/listinfo.cgi/deleuze-guattari-driftline.org >> >> >> >> "Por entre as filas o Atrida corria, dando ordens diversas: >> 'Sede homens, caros amigos, e ardor demonstrai combativo! >> Possa o respeito rec=EDproco a todos na pugna dar =E2nimo. >> S=E3o mais poupados na guerra os que sabem morrer briosamente, >> ao passo que os fugitivos nem gl=F3ria obter=E3o, nem defesa'" >> Il=EDada, canto V >> http://www.geocities.com/bernardorieux >> =09 >> --------------------------------- >> Yahoo! Acesso Gr=E1tis - Internet r=E1pida e gr=E1tis. Instale o discador >> agora! >> _______________________________________________ >> List address: deleuze-guattari-AT-driftline.org >> Admin interface: >> http://lists.driftline.org/listinfo.cgi/deleuze-guattari-driftline.org > -- > > arisensilently-AT-fastmail.fm > > _______________________________________________ > List address: deleuze-guattari-AT-driftline.org > Admin interface: > http://lists.driftline.org/listinfo.cgi/deleuze-guattari-driftline.org > > Ms. Sylvie Ruelle http://home.earthlink.net/~sylvieruelle rw_artette_lc-AT-yahoo.com _______________________________________________ List address: deleuze-guattari-AT-driftline.org Admin interface: http://lists.driftline.org/listinfo.cgi/deleuze-guattari-driftline.org
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