File deleuze-guattari/deleuze-guattari.0411, message 38


Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 18:15:11 +0100
To: deleuze-guattari-driftline.org-AT-lists.driftline.org
Subject: Re: [D-G] explain please


Can we resolve this very political (and personal) question of "how
reading helps us eat" from a D+G perspective?  I take it that what is
intended is how can understanding the reality of becoming, etc.,
provide a means of survival where the previously wasn't one.  Becoming
a non-eater?  More realistically, without intervention, becoming
extinct.  How do we reconcile an individual death with a becoming
determined at the pre-individual level?

foris


On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 09:50:51 -0600, Keith Appler <gkappler-AT-insightbb.com> wrote:
> You articulate my sense of it very well.  I've only dabbled in Deleuzian
> theory until very recently.  My background and my wife are dialectically
> materialist, which makes this form of taoism somewhat hard to swallow,
> though less so after Bush's success in the election.
> 
> Keith
> 
> 
> 
> At 03:07 AM 11/24/2004, you wrote:
> >for me, intuitively, i understand line of flight as an escape from an
> >oppression of forces.  it can be creating forces, this line.  for
> >example, one does not have to actually run away.  like kafka, one can
> >transform.  not changing clothes or fashions.  but, finding a style.
> >finding ones affections.
> >
> >in the british school model.  well, deleuze particularly, as i know
> >him, as stayed within this main frame sort of schooling, but he
> >schizo-analzyed it.  he did not bow to certain authors as gods.  but,
> >affirmed what was schizo in them.  looked at things differently than
> >main frame platonic visions and he also found marginals was on the
> >borders.
> >
> >not opposing but wading through, like a tick on a branch.
> >
> >so of your three questions maybe the third problem is most accurate.
> >
> >i am not that very mature of a thinker but, this is what makes sense to
> >me.  i am really illiterate and deleuze is what i am beginning to know.
> >  developing a schizo knowledge.
> >
> >On Nov 23, 2004, at 4:32 PM, Keith Appler wrote:
> >
> >>Greetings:
> >>
> >>A line of flight, of course.  Grossberg needs to communicate with
> >>colleagues in cultural studies, many of whom subscribe to the "British
> >>School" model.  What do you say to such people about a line of flight?
> >>  Do you mean that oppositional politics is a line of flight, even if
> >>it takes dialectical form, which is not D+G's favorite model of
> >>historical development?  Or is this only an affair of the multitude, a
> >>statistical mutation toward something unknowable?
> >>
> >>Keith
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>At 06:05 PM 11/23/2004, you wrote:
> >>>line de fuit
> >>>
> >>>?
> >>>
> >>>On Nov 23, 2004, at 3:59 PM, Keith Appler wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>What model do you propose for Deleuzian dissent?  I'm working on
> >>>>Grossberg's (We Gotta Get Outta This Place).
> >>>>Keith
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>At 05:10 PM 11/23/2004, you wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 05:47:20 -0800, arisensilently-AT-fastmail.fm said:
> >>>>> > finally some constructive dissent.
> >>>>>----------------
> >>>>>dissent never constructive: dissents sucks----------------
> >>>>>seee E.Feyderaband PHd Colombia NYC on this issue.lol
> >>>>>schizopubnksnotdead!!!yeeyee
> >>>>>-------------
> >>>>>wooofwof btzzzzzzzzzz-------------blblupblup bisoux tout les jojoes
> >>>>>here
> >>>>>adline. acertain truth is positivethis list needs positive truth, go
> >>>>>on
> >>>>>after i cover in the wood.
> >>>>>-----------
> >>>>>--
> >>>>>   adline vanlindenbergh
> >>>>>   bisouxnoursfast-AT-fastmail.fm
> >>>>>
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