File deleuze-guattari/deleuze-guattari.0411, message 40


Subject: Re: [D-G] explain please
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 11:10:14 -0800
To: deleuze-guattari-driftline.org-AT-lists.driftline.org


There are certain people who get energy from air, who live in the  
mountains.
Well, of course water is necessary for our ocean bodies.  But what's in  
the water?

But I have a D-G friend who is Brazilian and say's "It's my food".
It takes a certain cultural-cultural jump to understand.
The gestures he say's when he say's that, the body language, the eyes,  
the way it is said, it only seems clear to me then.  But there are  
those unaware of D-G...  They eat something else.
Probably, he means, well, "If I don't get this, I will die".  Like "The  
world needs this.  Or we shall perish"

Sure one can eat and eat forever until a certain point like a "hungry  
mungry" with food.  But D-G 'thinking' is a substance too.

just a little silly input



On Nov 24, 2004, at 9:15 AM, James Depew wrote:

> Can we resolve this very political (and personal) question of "how
> reading helps us eat" from a D+G perspective?  I take it that what is
> intended is how can understanding the reality of becoming, etc.,
> provide a means of survival where the previously wasn't one.  Becoming
> a non-eater?  More realistically, without intervention, becoming
> extinct.  How do we reconcile an individual death with a becoming
> determined at the pre-individual level?
>
> foris
>
>
> On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 09:50:51 -0600, Keith Appler  
> <gkappler-AT-insightbb.com> wrote:
>> You articulate my sense of it very well.  I've only dabbled in  
>> Deleuzian
>> theory until very recently.  My background and my wife are  
>> dialectically
>> materialist, which makes this form of taoism somewhat hard to swallow,
>> though less so after Bush's success in the election.
>>
>> Keith
>>
>>
>>
>> At 03:07 AM 11/24/2004, you wrote:
>>> for me, intuitively, i understand line of flight as an escape from an
>>> oppression of forces.  it can be creating forces, this line.  for
>>> example, one does not have to actually run away.  like kafka, one can
>>> transform.  not changing clothes or fashions.  but, finding a style.
>>> finding ones affections.
>>>
>>> in the british school model.  well, deleuze particularly, as i know
>>> him, as stayed within this main frame sort of schooling, but he
>>> schizo-analzyed it.  he did not bow to certain authors as gods.  but,
>>> affirmed what was schizo in them.  looked at things differently than
>>> main frame platonic visions and he also found marginals was on the
>>> borders.
>>>
>>> not opposing but wading through, like a tick on a branch.
>>>
>>> so of your three questions maybe the third problem is most accurate.
>>>
>>> i am not that very mature of a thinker but, this is what makes sense  
>>> to
>>> me.  i am really illiterate and deleuze is what i am beginning to  
>>> know.
>>>  developing a schizo knowledge.
>>>
>>> On Nov 23, 2004, at 4:32 PM, Keith Appler wrote:
>>>
>>>> Greetings:
>>>>
>>>> A line of flight, of course.  Grossberg needs to communicate with
>>>> colleagues in cultural studies, many of whom subscribe to the  
>>>> "British
>>>> School" model.  What do you say to such people about a line of  
>>>> flight?
>>>>  Do you mean that oppositional politics is a line of flight, even if
>>>> it takes dialectical form, which is not D+G's favorite model of
>>>> historical development?  Or is this only an affair of the  
>>>> multitude, a
>>>> statistical mutation toward something unknowable?
>>>>
>>>> Keith
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> At 06:05 PM 11/23/2004, you wrote:
>>>>> line de fuit
>>>>>
>>>>> ?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Nov 23, 2004, at 3:59 PM, Keith Appler wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> What model do you propose for Deleuzian dissent?  I'm working on
>>>>>> Grossberg's (We Gotta Get Outta This Place).
>>>>>> Keith
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> At 05:10 PM 11/23/2004, you wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 05:47:20 -0800, arisensilently-AT-fastmail.fm  
>>>>>>> said:
>>>>>>>> finally some constructive dissent.
>>>>>>> ----------------
>>>>>>> dissent never constructive: dissents sucks----------------
>>>>>>> seee E.Feyderaband PHd Colombia NYC on this issue.lol
>>>>>>> schizopubnksnotdead!!!yeeyee
>>>>>>> -------------
>>>>>>> wooofwof btzzzzzzzzzz-------------blblupblup bisoux tout les  
>>>>>>> jojoes
>>>>>>> here
>>>>>>> adline. acertain truth is positivethis list needs positive  
>>>>>>> truth, go
>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>> after i cover in the wood.
>>>>>>> -----------
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>   adline vanlindenbergh
>>>>>>>   bisouxnoursfast-AT-fastmail.fm
>>>>>>>
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