File deleuze-guattari/deleuze-guattari.0411, message 50


Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2004 18:23:50 +0100
To: deleuze-guattari-driftline.org-AT-lists.driftline.org
Subject: Re: [D-G] Don't explain deleuze please


"People often have too much of a tendency to reterritorialize on the
child, the mad, noise." - 1000 plateaus

Sorry for the quote, but it seems relevant.

foris


On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 09:57:08 +0800, Mr David Fussell
<reception-AT-pica.org.au> wrote:
> Unfortunately, 1000 Plateau's for some, fills the position of Analyst (gone
> rogue). The reader risks either a) racing to fill the position of analysand
> and/or b) having their narcissism (which is often the case with the...
> intellectually grandiose) split open like a pandora's box under the wedge of
> the Unconscious that the book can present. One begins to love how well they
> understand. But the original scholarship was more than just an epiphany
> despite the wording of the authors. D&G are not Martin Luther.
> 
> It's funny, Deleuze writing on his own while powerfully lucid can be
> painfully dry. D&G writing together while powerfully lucid is also painfully
> vertiginous.
> 
> Create, yes, but make sure one uses a voice of one's own, in the open, in
> the daylight, in a molar language. Appealing to the Unconscious is not a
> persuasive argumentative ploy, for many. It is a stepping off the field of
> play, an act of religion, neither artistic nor philosophical.
> 
> D
> 
> 
> 
> >
> > dg has been published and everybody can read it. copyes are circulating
> > on Niger river, on Amour River.. schizoline wanderrer across continents,
> > have read dg and it did some good to them or NOT. lot's of questions and
> > all time i wrote on dg spoon older list, it was i said the books like
> > what is philo has been published, and if even if the politic in this
> > book is very international, very futuristic, maybe only litterally it's
> > in an elite a becoming elite of ten singular (readers) who LOVE DESIRE
> > from the book. who use the book, and do not want to speak for it, to
> > explain away the written text. but what to act, produce something, to
> > deterritorialise (absoluteively) from it. becoming philosophy is one of
> > the objective set in this book.
> >
> > to me in that sense i had already fully agreed with guattari talking
> > about alternative subjectivity (alt.to for example occidental mainstream
> > subjectivity )Universes Complexities will need ARTS more than
> > Philosophy. no need of philosophy books, read dg for philosophy, read
> > spinoza. the rest is disgusting. all the zyek badiou negri etc : no
> > sense, good but non-sense. we don't need intellectuals, we need
> > philosopher to become artists.
> >
> > dismantling the usa can be a political idea, and surely lot's of people
> > are already thinking about how to ashieve this. but only artist can
> > dismantle the usa, and the rest of the world. it's not only usa which
> > needs to be thought differently, it's the whole planet. only artists
> > have the solitude required for thinking and constructing a new earth.
> > it's a bifurcation from the intelletgentsia of what lies since
> > rennaissance which has to take break from the past. it means terrible
> > suffering, of which hunger is one of the slightest harm. (packs lines
> > turning to line of death, etc)try not be populist if you are honnest
> > about doing "good", or producing active affactios; because this is not
> > thinking to be a stone or a car or a factory: they are thinking objects
> > themselves.. what states man does not crave for this little thing: to be
> > a thinker. what is needed is the virtual to come on the earth, and this,
> > what is the virtual, and how can it become arrive on earth, is the task
> > of the thinker/ARTIST, only. the rest is paranoia, clubs networks, squid
> > life. unhook from life and become a self that exists in the infinite
> > worlds, so you can start to think with desire (feelings). so go to your
> > typewriter and right a model.
> > --
> > adline vanlindenbergh
> > bisouxnoursfast-AT-fastmail.fm
> >
> >
> 
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