File deleuze-guattari/deleuze-guattari.0411, message 51


Subject: Re: [D-G] Don't explain deleuze please
Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2004 09:45:48 -0800
To: deleuze-guattari-driftline.org-AT-lists.driftline.org


i remember someone saying at one time: "why is your life so boring?   
Have you ever tried drugs?  Why don't you ever go out? (etc.)" and I  
explained that I always was 'way out there'in myself,  I never had the  
need for drugs, when I went out it was to look at architecture.  That,  
by my living like this since childhood, having a 'boring' life was  
actually not so boring to me.

:0)

On Nov 26, 2004, at 9:23 AM, James Depew wrote:

> "People often have too much of a tendency to reterritorialize on the
> child, the mad, noise." - 1000 plateaus
>
> Sorry for the quote, but it seems relevant.
>
> foris
>
>
> On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 09:57:08 +0800, Mr David Fussell
> <reception-AT-pica.org.au> wrote:
>> Unfortunately, 1000 Plateau's for some, fills the position of Analyst  
>> (gone
>> rogue). The reader risks either a) racing to fill the position of  
>> analysand
>> and/or b) having their narcissism (which is often the case with the...
>> intellectually grandiose) split open like a pandora's box under the  
>> wedge of
>> the Unconscious that the book can present. One begins to love how  
>> well they
>> understand. But the original scholarship was more than just an  
>> epiphany
>> despite the wording of the authors. D&G are not Martin Luther.
>>
>> It's funny, Deleuze writing on his own while powerfully lucid can be
>> painfully dry. D&G writing together while powerfully lucid is also  
>> painfully
>> vertiginous.
>>
>> Create, yes, but make sure one uses a voice of one's own, in the  
>> open, in
>> the daylight, in a molar language. Appealing to the Unconscious is  
>> not a
>> persuasive argumentative ploy, for many. It is a stepping off the  
>> field of
>> play, an act of religion, neither artistic nor philosophical.
>>
>> D
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> dg has been published and everybody can read it. copyes are  
>>> circulating
>>> on Niger river, on Amour River.. schizoline wanderrer across  
>>> continents,
>>> have read dg and it did some good to them or NOT. lot's of questions  
>>> and
>>> all time i wrote on dg spoon older list, it was i said the books like
>>> what is philo has been published, and if even if the politic in this
>>> book is very international, very futuristic, maybe only litterally  
>>> it's
>>> in an elite a becoming elite of ten singular (readers) who LOVE  
>>> DESIRE
>>> from the book. who use the book, and do not want to speak for it, to
>>> explain away the written text. but what to act, produce something, to
>>> deterritorialise (absoluteively) from it. becoming philosophy is one  
>>> of
>>> the objective set in this book.
>>>
>>> to me in that sense i had already fully agreed with guattari talking
>>> about alternative subjectivity (alt.to for example occidental  
>>> mainstream
>>> subjectivity )Universes Complexities will need ARTS more than
>>> Philosophy. no need of philosophy books, read dg for philosophy, read
>>> spinoza. the rest is disgusting. all the zyek badiou negri etc : no
>>> sense, good but non-sense. we don't need intellectuals, we need
>>> philosopher to become artists.
>>>
>>> dismantling the usa can be a political idea, and surely lot's of  
>>> people
>>> are already thinking about how to ashieve this. but only artist can
>>> dismantle the usa, and the rest of the world. it's not only usa which
>>> needs to be thought differently, it's the whole planet. only artists
>>> have the solitude required for thinking and constructing a new earth.
>>> it's a bifurcation from the intelletgentsia of what lies since
>>> rennaissance which has to take break from the past. it means terrible
>>> suffering, of which hunger is one of the slightest harm. (packs lines
>>> turning to line of death, etc)try not be populist if you are honnest
>>> about doing "good", or producing active affactios; because this is  
>>> not
>>> thinking to be a stone or a car or a factory: they are thinking  
>>> objects
>>> themselves.. what states man does not crave for this little thing:  
>>> to be
>>> a thinker. what is needed is the virtual to come on the earth, and  
>>> this,
>>> what is the virtual, and how can it become arrive on earth, is the  
>>> task
>>> of the thinker/ARTIST, only. the rest is paranoia, clubs networks,  
>>> squid
>>> life. unhook from life and become a self that exists in the infinite
>>> worlds, so you can start to think with desire (feelings). so go to  
>>> your
>>> typewriter and right a model.
>>> --
>>> adline vanlindenbergh
>>> bisouxnoursfast-AT-fastmail.fm
>>>
>>>
>>
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