File deleuze-guattari/deleuze-guattari.0412, message 6


Subject: Re: [D-G] foucault: savages, barbarians, civilized man
Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2004 03:33:53 -0800
To: deleuze-guattari-driftline.org-AT-lists.driftline.org


Is this work cited by Deleuze?  And if so, where?  I would like to dive=20
in at that point and then jump to "Friday".
thank you for the reply

On Dec 6, 2004, at 2:55 AM, Dascalu Ioana wrote:

> You might find useful Michel Tournier's novel
> "Friday", which gives a good glimpse of absolute
> loneliness and of the way someone changes when
> confronted to it.
> What I liked most is the reversal of roles, whereby
> the savage, Friday, takes control of Robinson's life.
> They also made a movie starring Sir Lawrence Olivier.
>
> Let me write my favourite citation of the book:
> " Face is that part of our flesh which is continuously
> modelled , heatened and animated by the presence of
> our fellows. A person which has just left someone with
> whom he had a productive conversation preserves on his
> face an obvious joy gradually fading in time; that
> flame will light up again when he finds another real
> friend."
>
>
>
> --- Sylvie Ruelle <sylvieruelle-AT-earthlink.net> a écrit
> :
>>   for some strange reason i am always led back to
>> the notions of savage,
>> barbarians, and
>>   civilized man.=A0 i am wondering where this would
>> tie in with the
>> discussions we are having.
>>
>>
>>   Foucault's "Society Must Be Defended" has an
>> excellent discussion of
>> these notions and I
>>   would like to know a film that uses these
>> notions.=A0 So far I can think
>> of "Quest for Fire" but
>>   I am not sure if it uses these notions in the
>> proper sense of
>> Deleuzian thought.=A0 And, of
>>   course, it does not reach the point of civilized
>> man in it's storyline
>> but there must be a film
>>   where all three are included.=A0 And I am also
>> thinking of "Brotherhood
>> of the Wolf" that
>>   might contain all three.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Ms. Sylvie Ruelle
>> http://home.earthlink.net/~sylvieruelle
>>
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