Subject: Re: [D-G] foucault: savages, barbarians, civilized man
Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2004 05:30:36 -0800
To: deleuze-guattari-driftline.org-AT-lists.driftline.org


i even found a childrens version of this book you mention by the same
author.  i will check 'em out.
it has less pages.
no, i am not dissapointed.  thank you so much.




On Dec 6, 2004, at 5:28 AM, Dascalu Ioana wrote:

> I might disappoint you, but as far as I know it isn't
> cited by Deleuze.
>
> --- Sylvie Ruelle <sylvieruelle-AT-earthlink.net> a écrit
> :
>> Is this work cited by Deleuze?  And if so, where?  I
>> would like to dive
>> in at that point and then jump to "Friday".
>> thank you for the reply
>>
>> On Dec 6, 2004, at 2:55 AM, Dascalu Ioana wrote:
>>
>>> You might find useful Michel Tournier's novel
>>> "Friday", which gives a good glimpse of absolute
>>> loneliness and of the way someone changes when
>>> confronted to it.
>>> What I liked most is the reversal of roles,
>> whereby
>>> the savage, Friday, takes control of Robinson's
>> life.
>>> They also made a movie starring Sir Lawrence
>> Olivier.
>>>
>>> Let me write my favourite citation of the book:
>>> " Face is that part of our flesh which is
>> continuously
>>> modelled , heatened and animated by the presence
>> of
>>> our fellows. A person which has just left someone
>> with
>>> whom he had a productive conversation preserves on
>> his
>>> face an obvious joy gradually fading in time; that
>>> flame will light up again when he finds another
>> real
>>> friend."
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --- Sylvie Ruelle <sylvieruelle-AT-earthlink.net> a
>> écrit
>>> :
>>>>   for some strange reason i am always led back to
>>>> the notions of savage,
>>>> barbarians, and
>>>>   civilized man.=A0 i am wondering where this would
>>>> tie in with the
>>>> discussions we are having.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   Foucault's "Society Must Be Defended" has an
>>>> excellent discussion of
>>>> these notions and I
>>>>   would like to know a film that uses these
>>>> notions.=A0 So far I can think
>>>> of "Quest for Fire" but
>>>>   I am not sure if it uses these notions in the
>>>> proper sense of
>>>> Deleuzian thought.=A0 And, of
>>>>   course, it does not reach the point of
>> civilized
>>>> man in it's storyline
>>>> but there must be a film
>>>>   where all three are included.=A0 And I am also
>>>> thinking of "Brotherhood
>>>> of the Wolf" that
>>>>   might contain all three.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ms. Sylvie Ruelle
>>>> http://home.earthlink.net/~sylvieruelle
>>>>
>>>
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