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Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 07:53:55 -0800
Subject: RE: [D-G] mona has


Chris,

Since I am writing my dissertation on Deleuze I see no reason not to read the texts.  Which seminar is Lacan's #8? I will re-read the opening and closing of Anti-Oedipus. I look forward to your responses.


It might be nice if others join in. No pressure. If you prefer sticking to silly poetic ramblings, or certain un-silly ones, please do.

sid
>
> Sid,
>
> I'm certainly up for this reading. Niggling abt. is the idea that Capital is
> the Symbolic. Not a deep insight but a place to begin --
>
> I have not read much Lacan, only in literary theory class-- Poe's 'Purloined
> Letter' in conjunction w/ Derrida's reading of his reading.
>
> Could we work out a cogible reading list? I'm interested in following Gary
> Genosko's work on Guattari's semiotic but think we might start with reading
> the first and last chapters of AntiO again. I'm going to anyways.
>
> You think Lacan's Seminar #8?
>
> Chris.
>
>
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>
> To these four we should add the fifth (5) Truth
>
> 1) The event
> 2) Ontology
> 3) Ontological role/importance of temporality
> 4) Majoritarian/minoritarian militant/ethico-aesthetic practice
>
> I think this would be a very fruitful project. To begin I will suggest a
> reading: Daniel Smith has a wonderful essay on Deleuze v. Badiou in
> relationship to mathematics. I know that it was in the Southern Journal of
> Philosophy and I imagine that it is floating around in other places (Sorry
> to participate in the "capitalist desire to read texts but...)
>
> These are just starting points...
>
> (1) It strikes me that one difference in the way that D & B look at the
> event is in the question of the question of language.  It seems that Deleuze
> places the event at times into a linguistic enterprise. Of course, Badiou
> would be forced to reject this being the new non-linguistic philosopher.
>
> (2) I am in the minority but believe that Deleuze was "to be done with
> ontology." The insistence that being is univocal seems to be great strike
> against ontology.  If ontological difference is located in the individual
> and not the species (if you all me to use the biological concept) then
> ontology is moved to becoming (mutation). This is the continuation of the
> Nietzsche project from Twilight. Badiou strikes me as almost equally
> skeptical of the ontology, not the concept, but being itself.  As with most
> disagreements between Deleuze and Badiou, it comes down to their
> understanding of multiplicity and difference.
>
> (3) Nothing now.
>
> (4) There seems to be some aggreement that D & G's politics would be
> different from Badiou's, hence not militant.  I am not sure if this true.  I
> do not see that D&G are not setting up a radical militant politics although
> it does take on a group dynamic that is absent from Badiou.  Although Badiou
> is highly involved with non-party politics, it still seems that processes
> that bring about the militant have a party look to them. If we think about
> is continually example Paul I think we see the party lurking in the
> background, or at least the shadow of party lurking in the background. I
> think this is what Zizek means when he says that Badiou is afraid to ex-cize
> Stalin.
>
> (5) Deleuze was famous for his dis-taste for TRUTH, but Badiou's reworking
> of the term renders most of Deleuze's objections mute. Perhaps like not
> wanting to be surround by "scarecrows and suken faces" (Nietzsche "the Gay
> Science), deleuze's rejection of truth is just a matter of taste.
>
> sid
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