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From: "Chapman" <chapman0603-AT-rogers.com>
To: <deleuze-guattari-driftline.org-AT-lists.driftline.org>,
Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 11:54:47 -0500
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Subject: [D-G] zinfandel


Jon,

I've just scanned the 'Faciality' essay and was unable to find your desired
reference under my pink and yellow highlights. Perhaps you can help me with
something?

Would you consider the following passage, (found in some cantankerous
purple), to be an accurate inflection or reflection of what they mean and
whom you think they have in mind when they are considering the 'terrible'
faces of capital, or is there a distinct difference between stages of
capital- and imperial- ism that I'm missing?

"Neither (despotic slavery in general or proceeding by authoritarian
contract) begins with Christ, or the White Man as Christian Universal: there
are Indian, African, and Asiatic despotic formations of signifiance; the
authoritarian process of subjectification appears most purely in the destiny
of the Jewish people. But however different these semiotics are, they still
form a de facto mix, and it is on the level of this mixture that they assert
their imperialism, in other words, their common endeavour to crush all other
semiotics. There is no signifiance that does not harbour the seeds of
subjectivity; there is no subjectification that does not drag with it
remnants of signifier... Our semiotic of modern White Men, the semiotic of
capitalism, has attained this state  of mixture in which signifiance and
subjectification effectively interpenetrate." (ATP 182)

I'm unsure if they are suggesting that capital is a stage of entwinement
beyond imperialism and the place of the 'white face' is as the telos of
Indian, African, and Asiatic cystemps of empire? I can't square the
'in-general' of capital's average white sensual face with your memory of it
being coordinated by variegation.


Chris.

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Subject: [D-G] capitalism has many faces


Hi,

I seem to remember that, in ATP, D&G said something along the lines of
'capitalism has many faces to the east and to the west, each one worse
than the last'.  If anyone remembers where, that'd be much-appreciated :)

Cheers,

Jon


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