From: "Chapman" <chapman0603-AT-rogers.com> To: <deleuze-guattari-driftline.org-AT-lists.driftline.org>, Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 11:54:47 -0500 Cc: Subject: [D-G] zinfandel Jon, I've just scanned the 'Faciality' essay and was unable to find your desired reference under my pink and yellow highlights. Perhaps you can help me with something? Would you consider the following passage, (found in some cantankerous purple), to be an accurate inflection or reflection of what they mean and whom you think they have in mind when they are considering the 'terrible' faces of capital, or is there a distinct difference between stages of capital- and imperial- ism that I'm missing? "Neither (despotic slavery in general or proceeding by authoritarian contract) begins with Christ, or the White Man as Christian Universal: there are Indian, African, and Asiatic despotic formations of signifiance; the authoritarian process of subjectification appears most purely in the destiny of the Jewish people. But however different these semiotics are, they still form a de facto mix, and it is on the level of this mixture that they assert their imperialism, in other words, their common endeavour to crush all other semiotics. There is no signifiance that does not harbour the seeds of subjectivity; there is no subjectification that does not drag with it remnants of signifier... Our semiotic of modern White Men, the semiotic of capitalism, has attained this state of mixture in which signifiance and subjectification effectively interpenetrate." (ATP 182) I'm unsure if they are suggesting that capital is a stage of entwinement beyond imperialism and the place of the 'white face' is as the telos of Indian, African, and Asiatic cystemps of empire? I can't square the 'in-general' of capital's average white sensual face with your memory of it being coordinated by variegation. Chris. -----Original Message----- From: deleuze-guattari-driftline.org-bounces-AT-lists.driftline.org [mailto:deleuze-guattari-driftline.org-bounces-AT-lists.driftline.org]On Behalf Of Jon Mendel Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 6:59 AM To: deleuze-guattari-AT-driftline.org Subject: [D-G] capitalism has many faces Hi, I seem to remember that, in ATP, D&G said something along the lines of 'capitalism has many faces to the east and to the west, each one worse than the last'. If anyone remembers where, that'd be much-appreciated :) Cheers, Jon _______________________________________________ List address: deleuze-guattari-AT-driftline.org Admin interface: http://lists.driftline.org/listinfo.cgi/deleuze-guattari-driftline.org _______________________________________________ List address: deleuze-guattari-AT-driftline.org Admin interface: http://lists.driftline.org/listinfo.cgi/deleuze-guattari-driftline.org
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