Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 22:37:40 +0000 (GMT) From: Liza Kozner <liza_kozner-AT-yahoo.co.uk> Subject: RE: [D-G] Plane of Reference To: deleuze-guattari-driftline.org-AT-lists.driftline.org Dear ChrisChapman : I have succeeded a mobile connection by plugging a "wap" module in a mobile. I no longer rely on Wi-Fi and free-ways Wi-FI poles, was hoping to tell you but now can do it within this communication; you'd be delighted to know, I was sure and so wrote you about it: indeed: Now it seems I can chat with you all the while of the ride, Lucy drivings of the truck on the freeways large curves, make a conterpoint to the luminosity as it is setting away from my reading eyes, the dark clouds of a thunderous night are escaping from the freeway's horizon of visibility, so i lean and loaf like while i write you, in the back near the commodities we are carrying to Italy, I am leaning I am taking WIP? in between my hands: i have left my socks leaning behind Lucy's seat also. I am taking my eases like you, no worry needed here, no trouble mentioned. The truck's floor shakes though like an ocean of magnetic needles , of rumbling materials vibrating under my back. Wait, I am putting myself on now the Stand-By mode is brightening my face, if this is not disturbing you . I will load your eyes with perceptive informations. With scientific functives (variables and abscisses going to the limit) But I need to put a limit to my partial observer here and there. I am sorry dear. ByeBye Liza --- Chris Chapman <chapman0603-AT-rogers.com> wrote: > I read 'le plan est feuilleté' as 'le pain est > feuilleté' and laughed, > thinking: 'I lean and loaf at my ease'. > > Chris. > (not a steak house) > > -----Original Message----- > From: > deleuze-guattari-driftline.org-bounces-AT-lists.driftline.org > [mailto:deleuze-guattari-driftline.org-bounces-AT-lists.driftline.org] > On > Behalf Of Lucy LeGentilSinge > Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 1:54 PM > To: > deleuze-guattari-driftline.org-AT-lists.driftline.org > Subject: RE: [D-G] Plane of Reference > > Oh Chris, > it's great if you can help us: in my truck with Lucy > we're reading WIP? in French (Français), and we were > wondering if Plane of Reference had been read by > some > of D-G listers. > I don't reckon many discussions conforted by > reader's > personal re/actions to the book, have been > constructed > either on list or elswhere yet, relating to Science, > and Deleuze's relation to Science, especially as > exposed in "Functive and Concepts" part of WIP? > > It's more like: what have been Scientific's > approaches > in relation to ideas developped by WIP? Do you have > links, or referent books, but rather, does the book > itself suggests to you a way to approach scientific > constructions in a positive way, that you could talk > about here, yourself Chris or other here? That would > be more interesting than discussing Nietzsche as > usual. Don't you find by the way that the identity > Nietzsche, Spinoza and DG is becoming paradigmatic > rather than Syntagmatic, to pinacle the use of the > word: Deleuze seems to suggest that Philosophy as he > understood it with Guattari, was Syntagmatic, and > called for a truth of the relative, le plan est > feuilleté , ie.The plane of Immanence is > "Interleaved", and later on page 50 British edition. > That Science was like André Breton's vase > communiquants, that it's constructed by variables > and > that Philosophy is rather Syntagmatic, because the > variations are consistent with the development of > Infinite movement, and that Science was > bifurcations, > made by cuts, and that Scientifics needed > perceptions > and affections of cuts. It's very messy a > descritption > and the best communication would eshew from each > one's > reading the book. > > But I am also reading Stengers and Shlanger "Les > concepts Scientifiques". Stengers also knows Deleuze > very well. She is doing a constructivism now since a > long time it seems . With Prygogyne. Are these > themes > interesting for you. ? I was interested by Harald's > ideas because he said he was a Scientific. Lucy is a > Scientist too you know. I am learning from him but I > was hoping to learn from others. But no one answers > yet. The Scientists: are they interested by Deleuze? > Are they superficially so, or enthusiastically, and > how can we learn from their enthusisam, and have > clues > for our own enthusisasm for DG? > > We have to take the truck to an other spot. I am > waiting Lucy who is loading oil in a tank. We make > provision so we don't have to stop and can relax in > the rear of the truck. Someone reads WIP?, the other > is driving. There's some "bouchons", the road, with > it's traffic is not fluid, it's allosteric would > say > Jacques Monod "Hazard and Necessity", page 130 WIP? > British Edition. We are expected in Nice at Night. > Meanwhile, > Cheers > > Liza > > --- Chris Chapman <chapman0603-AT-rogers.com> wrote: > > Liza > > > > Want and able -- well you know the rest. > > > > If I can give it a decent shot, I'll try. > > > > Quest'ce que c'est? > > > > Chris. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: > > > deleuze-guattari-driftline.org-bounces-AT-lists.driftline.org > > > [mailto:deleuze-guattari-driftline.org-bounces-AT-lists.driftline.org] > > On > > Behalf Of Lucy LeGentilSinge > > Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 1:22 PM > > To: > > deleuze-guattari-driftline.org-AT-lists.driftline.org > > Subject: Re: [D-G] Plane of Reference > > > > > > Hello. > > Nobody wanted to answer my question? > > > > Liza > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________ > > > > ALL-NEW Yahoo! 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