File deleuze-guattari/deleuze-guattari.0502, message 147


From: "Chris Chapman" <chapman0603-AT-rogers.com>
To: <deleuze-guattari-driftline.org-AT-lists.driftline.org>
Subject: RE: [D-G] Plane of Reference
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 14:43:03 -0800


Don't get lost in the metaphorest on your way but have a nice trip though.
Be sure to stop-in at Rapallo if you get a chance and have a sausage with a
bit o' mint.


Chris

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[mailto:deleuze-guattari-driftline.org-bounces-AT-lists.driftline.org] On
Behalf Of Liza Kozner
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 2:38 PM
To: deleuze-guattari-driftline.org-AT-lists.driftline.org
Subject: RE: [D-G] Plane of Reference

Dear
ChrisChapman
:
I have succeeded a mobile connection by plugging a
"wap" module in a mobile. I no longer rely on Wi-Fi
and free-ways Wi-FI poles, was hoping to tell you but
now can do it within this communication; you'd be
delighted to know, I was sure and so wrote you about
it: indeed: Now it seems I can chat with you all the
while of the ride, Lucy drivings of the truck on the
freeways large curves, make a conterpoint to the
luminosity as it is setting away from my reading eyes,
the dark clouds of a thunderous night are escaping
from the freeway's horizon of visibility, so
 i lean and loaf like while i write you, in the back
near the commodities we are carrying to Italy, I am
leaning I am taking WIP? in between my hands: i have
left my socks leaning behind Lucy's seat also. I am
taking my eases like you, no worry needed here, no
trouble mentioned. The truck's floor shakes though
like an ocean of magnetic needles , of rumbling
materials vibrating under my back. Wait, I am putting
myself on now the Stand-By mode is brightening my
face, if this is not disturbing you . I will load your
eyes with perceptive informations. With scientific
functives (variables and abscisses going to the limit)
But I need to put a limit to my partial observer here
and there. I am sorry dear.
ByeBye

Liza
 --- Chris Chapman <chapman0603-AT-rogers.com> wrote:
> I read 'le plan est feuilleté' as 'le pain est
> feuilleté' and laughed,
> thinking: 'I lean and loaf at my ease'.
>
> Chris.
> (not a steak house)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
>
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>
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> On
> Behalf Of Lucy LeGentilSinge
> Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 1:54 PM
> To:
> deleuze-guattari-driftline.org-AT-lists.driftline.org
> Subject: RE: [D-G] Plane of Reference
>
> Oh Chris, 
> it's great if you can help us: in my truck with Lucy
> we're reading WIP? in French (Fran=E7ais), and we were
> wondering if Plane of Reference had been read by
> some
> of D-G listers.
> I don't reckon many discussions conforted by
> reader's
> personal re/actions to the book, have been
> constructed
> either on list or elswhere yet, relating to Science,
> and Deleuze's relation to Science, especially as
> exposed in "Functive and Concepts" part of WIP?
>
> It's more like: what have been Scientific's
> approaches
> in relation to ideas developped by WIP? Do you have
> links, or referent books, but rather, does the book
> itself suggests to you a way to approach scientific
> constructions in a positive way, that you could talk
> about here, yourself Chris or other here? That would
> be more interesting than discussing Nietzsche as
> usual. Don't you find by the way that the identity
> Nietzsche, Spinoza and DG is becoming paradigmatic
> rather than Syntagmatic, to pinacle the use of the
> word: Deleuze seems to suggest that Philosophy as he
> understood it with Guattari, was Syntagmatic, and
> called for a truth of the relative, le plan est
> feuilleté , ie.The plane of Immanence is
> "Interleaved", and later on page 50 British edition.
> That Science was like André Breton's vase
> communiquants, that it's constructed by variables
> and
> that Philosophy is rather Syntagmatic, because the
> variations are consistent with the development of
> Infinite movement, and that Science was
> bifurcations,
> made by cuts, and that Scientifics needed
> perceptions
> and affections of cuts. It's very messy a
> descritption
> and the best communication would eshew from each
> one's
> reading the book.
>
> But I am also reading Stengers and Shlanger "Les
> concepts Scientifiques". Stengers also knows Deleuze
> very well. She is doing a constructivism now since a
> long time it seems . With Prygogyne. Are these
> themes
> interesting for you. ? I was interested by Harald's
> ideas because he said he was a Scientific. Lucy is a
> Scientist too you know. I am learning from him but I
> was hoping to learn from others. But no one answers
> yet. The Scientists: are they interested by Deleuze?
> Are they superficially so, or enthusiastically, and
> how can we learn from their enthusisam, and have
> clues
> for our own enthusisasm for DG?
>
> We have to take the truck to an other spot. I am
> waiting Lucy who is loading oil in a tank. We make
> provision so we don't have to stop and can relax in
> the rear of the truck. Someone reads WIP?, the other
> is driving. There's some "bouchons", the road, with
> it's traffic  is not fluid, it's allosteric would
> say
> Jacques Monod "Hazard and Necessity", page 130 WIP?
> British Edition. We are expected in Nice at Night.
> Meanwhile,
> Cheers
>
> Liza
>
>  --- Chris Chapman <chapman0603-AT-rogers.com> wrote:
> > Liza
> >
> > Want and able -- well you know the rest.
> >
> > If I can give it a decent shot, I'll try. 
> >
> > Quest'ce que c'est?
> >
> > Chris.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:
> >
>
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> >
>
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> > On
> > Behalf Of Lucy LeGentilSinge
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 1:22 PM
> > To:
> > deleuze-guattari-driftline.org-AT-lists.driftline.org
> > Subject: Re: [D-G] Plane of Reference
> >
> > 
> > Hello.
> > Nobody wanted to answer my question?
> >
> > Liza
> >
> >
> > =09
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