File deleuze-guattari/deleuze-guattari.0502, message 174


From: Sylvie Ruelle <sylvieruelle-AT-earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [D-G] Cascading Cultural Capital Style Sheets
Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2005 13:46:20 -0800
To: deleuze-guattari-driftline.org-AT-lists.driftline.org


lucy,
i think the text is false but related to your discussion with chris.
deleuze does talk about minorities, whereas this "don't go with the 
flow" text say's he does not.
deleuze and guattari, for example, speak of black panthers...
the text also relates to howard wenk's mentioning of strauss, 
nietszche, and philistinism, and deleuze on nietszche.  thank you for 
the reference howard, by the way, it was difficult but i read it.
sylvie

On Feb 27, 2005, at 1:40 PM, Lucy LeGentilSinge wrote:

> But ok thanks for your answer. But the question which
> originated into this questionable formulation i
> provided the List: was: Is there a way that you can
> elaborate on the text, in relation to your
> apprehension of it, be it a literate or idiotic (with
> all due and idiotic respect) ? Do you know. You are
> more literate than me. Nietzsche say "we do not have
> to be modest or humble". We can make mistakes. No
> "competence " needed to spaeke even to say in what way
> an Iidiot, in case you would accept for yourself the
> corelation to your Transcendental Ego, and Idiot like
> me or you relate to a either apparent intellectual
> text, and or literate effectively in subject that
> matter really and are indeed Important, and why does
> it appear PseudoIntellectual for an Idiot and
> "Literate" for someone else? and more important: How
> can we relate one Idiot to the Other, and how can One
> Idiot of an uncertain type Relate Subjectively or
> Objectively if possible, to an Other Subject? Is there
> an other way than accepting the Hegelian Fight of
> Liberation? A way to which here we can relate and
> study at the time we make it, like Kleist if you want,
> ignoring past transcendental Objects?
>
> Thankyou byeAnd whand let words flow say GD also, no?
> --- Sylvie Ruelle <sylvieruelle-AT-earthlink.net> wrote:
>> Lucy,
>> Sorry to say I do not understand you.  I am not
>> literate enough to
>> elaborate on the text.
>> Sylvie
>>
>> On Feb 27, 2005, at 12:47 PM, Lucy LeGentilSinge
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hello Sylvie
>>> How're Ya??
>>> Okits lame we need a way like that, com'on i say
>> it,
>>> to be deceived by the each one's others
>> multiduniae
>>> quam questions, and need to ressent our mutual
>>> enthusiasmatic need to know each other, in a
>> negative
>>> suspended way all the time, and which need
>> explaining
>>> the very existence of such a list in but not only
>>> Gattari existensial environment, where we are
>> living
>>> for each one's sake other and not for the
>> Internet's
>>> sake what, no?, so if I asking you what's your
>>> interest for this text, you can say more than
>> "it's
>>> related to your past interest and to the past
>> interest
>>> of the list"
>>> I am not that idiot and could imagine the
>> assertorical
>>> ideity of the truth in that possibilities serie,
>> but
>>> why would you reccomand the text, really? it's an
>> old
>>> text from 1999, i am not even sure author would
>>> recommend it today. Or is it part of your
>>> "internet"life with online events, and thus would
>> you
>>> say you wish not to think about your subjectivity
>>> online. in this case though I think the Chaosmotic
>>> Para-Subjectivism advanced as an Definitive
>> Cleansning
>>> for all Aesthetical Paradigm of Newness in Felixes
>>> Works, needs to be itself understood & also
>> frankly to
>>> be completed as A Chaosmosis, and not as mere
>>> Exo-Referential
>>> Documentation of our Egoistical Claim towards
>>> Philosophical Construction of the Self, or
>> Aesthetical
>>> Intellectual Syntagms.
>>> ------------------------wellsaid?
>>> Wii Wii
>>> Liza still in Niza cerca de l'Italia. Mi Amor!
>>> Tu conosce l'Itallia Sylvia, Vamo andiamunt subito
>>> all'Italia.
>>> ola, oh una pulcra mosaica!
>>>
>>> Liza --- Sylvie Ruelle
>> <sylvieruelle-AT-earthlink.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>> not that it was a perfect essay but more the
>> photos
>>>> and directions of
>>>> the essay, i felt applies and tied in a lot of
>>>> discussion currently
>>>> going on in here...
>>>> for example the partial observer...
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 25, 2005, at 6:33 PM, Liza Kozner wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>  --- Chris Chapman <chapman0603-AT-rogers.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>>> I just read the Bourdellian reading of Deleuze
>>>>>> Sylvie suggests and this
>>>>>> popped into my mind:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> \-------------/
>>>>>
>>>>> it's not worth discussing because Amitava is so
>>>>> irrational, he is not worth discussing and put
>>>> into
>>>>> any kind - of theory.
>>>>>
>>>>> But if Sylvie says it's interesting may-be she
>>>> could
>>>>> say why so, because this would explain our lack
>> or
>>>>> need of interest for the text (?)
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks Sylvie.
>>>>> Liza---
>>>>>
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