Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2005 23:06:47 +0000 (GMT) From: Liza Kozner <liza_kozner-AT-yahoo.co.uk> Subject: Re: [D-G] find the d&g in this To: deleuze-guattari-driftline.org-AT-lists.driftline.org I am sorry : Dear Ms Joan I did not really wanted to interfer really between you and Harald. I later realized I was myself aimed by my stubborn attacks, as they were not particularilly direct-ed against synaesthetic personalities. I am slowly realizing this as I see my moods diving in this special "I" that is a-tonal and that I am cherish as against all odds since my early years in Versaille where my Dad showed me Louis Quatorze and LeNotre fantastical mind puzzling labyrynthesque Baroque. Okay, I can say: "I want to be alone". I say it, well: "I want to be alone". It does good. It was not as simple. I need to relax, a day or a night, or just I d'need I guess to go to Genova for the week-end. I am ressentful, sick of this place somehow, and of Nice and of all it's museums. But all at once you were here, on the internet but also in the other dimensions, it's hard to say: "I love" patati.patata. You understand. I know it hurts yet. Sorry. But I had to do a few steps, towards asserting a few money my exit in Nature. Internet is not everything, I am sure you could understand this also?. But when you started yesterday on synaesthesia, I was told by my personal guardian angel, that, what specific matter you stated and created brings coolest memories to my "body-two-eyes": when I was a little girl I also noticed one day on the road to school. There was a little garden, and the road was curving all around it delicately. It was not grey, it had neither many grey colours in it,or gravity and grittles floating in a Bejart Ballet. It was rather musically violet, and it had an infinitesurface that was crossing my town where I took a break in the middle of the street, kneeled on the pavement, watching and being watched by passer-by finding the whole situation a bit sarcasmatic, I also were seeing a frequent bus and I saw it stop near me, feeling a ghost crossing me in the musical green garden within the violet persistent, almost "immanent" ground but not "abyssal". Yes, not, not abyssal I guess. Sorry. Distillation, interesting? I was interested, and I started also in New York to feel differences in the Empire State. this is a first stage clinical Synaesthesia that I actually was cheriching since I started reading Deleuze. It's well isn't it? I am so pleased to have met you. I need to go to Italy. Awiederzien Italya: hot chili sauce on spaghettis with bolo :) o y piu parmiggiano, ad-esso, signor-e Oh graz-ie! graz-ie le signyor-e! xx Liza --- joan carol urquhart <jcu-AT-execulink.com> wrote: > Yes. > > The experience of one sensation creates perceptual > associations > in another sense. It is the perceptual experience of > one sensation that > triggers the perception of associated sense > perceptions. > It is an assemblage. > > For example, > > When I hear words, I visually see the letters > spelled out in my head > and each letter has an associated colour, seen in my > mind's eye. > A very particular hue is consistently associated > with each letter > and has remained so throughout my entire life. I > think this is the > most common form of synaesthesia. > > As a child, I thought that everybody experienced > this. > Sometimes, particular (non-alphabetic)sounds also > conjure > associated colours in my mind's eye. But when this > happens, > the colours also have an associated texture to them. > Like when I hear the sound of a dog growling, I > 'see' the sound > in myh head as a sandpapery chili red colour at the > same time > that I hear the actual sound. I hear the sound in > textured colour. > > It's a good analogy for the way D&G attempt to > describe > the smooth space of artistic thought, > as > sense-perceptions-in-assemblage-becoming-art-in-the-making. > > > > ---- Original Message ----- > From: "Dr. Harald Wenk" <hwenk-AT-web.de> > To: > <deleuze-guattari-driftline.org-AT-lists.driftline.org> > Sent: Monday, March 07, 2005 8:53 AM > Subject: Re: [D-G] find the d&g in this > > > Hello, > > do I interprete this right, thart she is only > tasting the music if she > hears it at the same time? > > Greetings > > Harald Wenk > > Am Thu, 3 Mar 2005 17:04:58 -0500 schrieb joan carol > urquhart > <jcu-AT-execulink.com>: > > > Report: Woman 'tastes' musical notes > > > > > > > > Thursday, March 3, 2005 Posted: 1:18 PM EST (1818 > GMT) > > > > > > > > LONDON, England (Reuters) -- Music can be a > mouth-watering experience for > > one Swiss musician who "tastes" combinations of > notes as distinct > > flavors, > > according to a report in the science journal > Nature. > > > > > > > > The 27-year-old woman known as E.S. is a > synaesthete, someone who > > experiences sensation in more than one sense from > the same stimulation, > > researchers said on Wednesday. > > > > > > > > When E.S. hears tone intervals, the difference in > pitch between two > > tones, > > she not only can see the musical notes as > different colors but can taste > > the > > sounds. > > > > > > > > "This is a special case of a musician who, when > she hears tone intervals, > > she has a perception of a taste of a tone," said > psychologist Michaela > > Esslen, of the University of Zurich in > Switzerland. > > > > > > > > "She doesn't imagine the taste, she really tastes > it." > > > > > > > > The case of E.S. reported in Nature is exceptional > because seeing > > letters or > > digits in a certain color is more common in > synaesthesia. It may also > > involve seeing a musical tone as a color. > > > > > > > > But E.S. sees the colors and depending on the tone > intervals a symphony > > could be bittersweet, salty, sour or creamy. > > > > > > > > "Whenever she hears a specific musical interval, > she automatically > > experiences a taste on her tongue that is > consistently linked to that > > particular interval," the scientists said in the > journal. > > > > > > They tested E.S.'s ability by applying solutions > tasting sour, bitter, > > salty > > or sweet to her tongue and asking her to identify > the tone intervals, a > > difficult task that requires musical training. > > > > > > When the applied tastes corresponded with the > intervals she was able to > > identify them quicker than other musicians. > > > > > > "We found that E.S.'s tone-interval identification > was perfect," the > > researchers said. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > List address: deleuze-guattari-AT-driftline.org > > Info: > > > http://lists.driftline.org/listinfo.cgi/deleuze-guattari-driftline.org > > Archives: www.driftline.org > > > > > > -- > Erstellt mit Operas revolutionärem E-Mail-Modul: > http://www.opera.com/m2/ > > _______________________________________________ > List address: deleuze-guattari-AT-driftline.org > Info: > http://lists.driftline.org/listinfo.cgi/deleuze-guattari-driftline.org > Archives: www.driftline.org > > _______________________________________________ > List address: deleuze-guattari-AT-driftline.org > Info: > http://lists.driftline.org/listinfo.cgi/deleuze-guattari-driftline.org > Archives: www.driftline.org > Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ List address: deleuze-guattari-AT-driftline.org Info: http://lists.driftline.org/listinfo.cgi/deleuze-guattari-driftline.org Archives: www.driftline.org
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