File deleuze-guattari/deleuze-guattari.0503, message 50


To: deleuze-guattari-driftline.org-AT-lists.driftline.org
Subject: Re: [D-G] find the d&g in this
Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2005 21:51:30 -0800


is this what you really think Joan?

It's sad. You would say thus i am wrong. But well, I envy you. You are
happy and I am no one to send you no horrible jokes if you are not
Deleuzian.
it's like geting in and getting out, and this as a multiplicity

reste avec moi reste =E0 étudier Deleuze, soit capable de l'admirer comme
il nous a demander de ne pas l'admirer.
c'est pas paradoxal, c'est logic
ne m'abandonne pas
m=EAme si j'ai dit des choses
sur lesquelles on était pas d'accord
Innocence du Devenir

on est fous tous les deux. une's song for you
chopin listz shumann
Adline (:
On Mon, 7 Mar 2005 18:37:54 -0500, "joan carol urquhart"
<jcu-AT-execulink.com> said:
> o yea of little faith
>
> it is not psychology,
> not Pavlov's dog
>
> but more likely neural pathways criss crossing
> on the zig zag of synaptic perception,
> a differently-configured neural matrix,
> a reflex response that finds its origin in neurology
> and cannot be adequately described with words
>
> words fail to say it adequately
> and that is why D&G play with language,
> show great interest with artists and their percepts,
> and create portemanteau words that express new ideas
>
> the experience of a juxtaposition of two sense perceptions, consistently
> paired,
> is something more than associated memory
> or the conditioned experience of culture,
>
> and if colour and sound vibrate to similar frequencies
> there might be scientific grounds to quantify synaesthesia of this kind
> one
> day
>
> regardless,
> its usefulness to D&G thinking lies in its metaphor,
> if one is open
>
> meanwhile,
>
> sweet dreams
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dr. Harald Wenk" <hwenk-AT-web.de>
> To: <deleuze-guattari-driftline.org-AT-lists.driftline.org>
> Sent: Monday, March 07, 2005 5:56 PM
> Subject: Re: [D-G] find the d&g in this
>
>
> Hello,
>
> if we see an assemblage as an association, we are perfectly d'arcord.
> It is merely the psychology of association, which was common
> in 17th century philosophy. Deleuze mention it in his Hume book and it is
> present in Spinoza and  Locke.
>
> Good night
>
> Dr. Harald Wenk
>
>
> Am Mon, 7 Mar 2005 15:30:06 -0500 schrieb joan carol urquhart
> <jcu-AT-execulink.com>:
>
> > Yes.
> >
> > The experience of one sensation creates perceptual associations
> > in another sense. It is the perceptual experience of one sensation that
> > triggers the perception of associated sense perceptions.
> > It is an assemblage.
> >
> > For example,
> >
> > When I hear words, I visually see the letters spelled out in my head
> > and each letter has an associated colour, seen in my mind's eye.
> > A very particular hue is consistently associated with each letter
> > and has remained so throughout my entire life. I think this is the
> > most common form of synaesthesia.
> >
> > As a child, I thought that everybody  experienced this.
> > Sometimes, particular (non-alphabetic)sounds also conjure
> > associated colours in my mind's eye. But when this happens,
> > the colours also have an associated texture to them.
> > Like when I hear the sound of a dog growling, I 'see' the sound
> > in myh head as a sandpapery chili red colour at the same time
> > that I hear the actual sound. I hear the sound in textured colour.
> >
> > It's a good analogy for the way D&G attempt to describe
> > the smooth space of artistic thought,
> > as sense-perceptions-in-assemblage-becoming-art-in-the-making.
> >
> >
> >
> > ---- Original Message -----
> > From: "Dr. Harald Wenk" <hwenk-AT-web.de>
> > To: <deleuze-guattari-driftline.org-AT-lists.driftline.org>
> > Sent: Monday, March 07, 2005 8:53 AM
> > Subject: Re: [D-G] find the d&g in this
> >
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > do I interprete this right, thart she is only tasting the music if she
> > hears it at the same time?
> >
> > Greetings
> >
> > Harald Wenk
> >
> > Am Thu, 3 Mar 2005 17:04:58 -0500 schrieb joan carol urquhart
> > <jcu-AT-execulink.com>:
> >
> >> Report: Woman 'tastes' musical notes
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Thursday, March 3, 2005 Posted: 1:18 PM EST (1818 GMT)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> LONDON, England (Reuters) -- Music can be a mouth-watering experience
> >> for
> >> one Swiss musician who "tastes" combinations of notes as distinct
> >> flavors,
> >> according to a report in the science journal Nature.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> The 27-year-old woman known as E.S. is a synaesthete, someone who
> >> experiences sensation in more than one sense from the same stimulation,
> >> researchers said on Wednesday.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> When E.S. hears tone intervals, the difference in pitch between two
> >> tones,
> >> she not only can see the musical notes as different colors but can taste
> >> the
> >> sounds.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "This is a special case of a musician who, when she hears tone
> >> intervals,
> >> she has a perception of a taste of a tone," said psychologist Michaela
> >> Esslen, of the University of Zurich in Switzerland.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "She doesn't imagine the taste, she really tastes it."
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> The case of E.S. reported in Nature is exceptional because seeing
> >> letters or
> >> digits in a certain color is more common in synaesthesia.  It may also
> >> involve seeing a musical tone as a color.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> But E.S. sees the colors and depending on the tone intervals a symphony
> >> could be bittersweet, salty, sour or creamy.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "Whenever she hears a specific musical interval, she automatically
> >> experiences a taste on her tongue that is consistently linked to that
> >> particular interval," the scientists said in the journal.
> >>
> >>
> >> They tested E.S.'s ability by applying solutions tasting sour, bitter,
> >> salty
> >> or sweet to her tongue and asking her to identify the tone intervals, a
> >> difficult task that requires musical training.
> >>
> >>
> >> When the applied tastes corresponded with the intervals she was able to
> >> identify them quicker than other musicians.
> >>
> >>
> >> "We found that E.S.'s tone-interval identification was perfect," the
> >> researchers said.
> >>
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