File deleuze-guattari/deleuze-guattari.0503, message 57


Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 12:16:20 +0200
To: deleuze-guattari-driftline.org-AT-lists.driftline.org
Subject: Re: [D-G] find the d&g in this


Hello,

I have the impression, you got a quite reduced impression of science.
There is



Am Mon, 7 Mar 2005 18:37:54 -0500 schrieb joan carol urquhart  
<jcu-AT-execulink.com>:

> o yea of little faith
>
> it is not psychology,
> not Pavlov's dog
>
> but more likely neural pathways criss crossing
> on the zig zag of synaptic perception,
> a differently-configured neural matrix,
> a reflex response that finds its origin in neurology
> and cannot be adequately described with words
>
> words fail to say it adequately
> and that is why D&G play with language,
> show great interest with artists and their percepts,
> and create portemanteau words that express new ideas
>
> the experience of a juxtaposition of two sense perceptions, consistently
> paired,
> is something more than associated memory
> or the conditioned experience of culture,
>
> and if colour and sound vibrate to similar frequencies
> there might be scientific grounds to quantify synaesthesia of this kind  
> one
> day
>
> regardless,
> its usefulness to D&G thinking lies in its metaphor,
> if one is open
>
> meanwhile,
>
> sweet dreams
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dr. Harald Wenk" <hwenk-AT-web.de>
> To: <deleuze-guattari-driftline.org-AT-lists.driftline.org>
> Sent: Monday, March 07, 2005 5:56 PM
> Subject: Re: [D-G] find the d&g in this
>
>
> Hello,
>
> if we see an assemblage as an association, we are perfectly d'arcord.
> It is merely the psychology of association, which was common
> in 17th century philosophy. Deleuze mention it in his Hume book and it is
> present in Spinoza and  Locke.
>
> Good night
>
> Dr. Harald Wenk
>
>
> Am Mon, 7 Mar 2005 15:30:06 -0500 schrieb joan carol urquhart
> <jcu-AT-execulink.com>:
>
>> Yes.
>>
>> The experience of one sensation creates perceptual associations
>> in another sense. It is the perceptual experience of one sensation that
>> triggers the perception of associated sense perceptions.
>> It is an assemblage.
>>
>> For example,
>>
>> When I hear words, I visually see the letters spelled out in my head
>> and each letter has an associated colour, seen in my mind's eye.
>> A very particular hue is consistently associated with each letter
>> and has remained so throughout my entire life. I think this is the
>> most common form of synaesthesia.
>>
>> As a child, I thought that everybody  experienced this.
>> Sometimes, particular (non-alphabetic)sounds also conjure
>> associated colours in my mind's eye. But when this happens,
>> the colours also have an associated texture to them.
>> Like when I hear the sound of a dog growling, I 'see' the sound
>> in myh head as a sandpapery chili red colour at the same time
>> that I hear the actual sound. I hear the sound in textured colour.
>>
>> It's a good analogy for the way D&G attempt to describe
>> the smooth space of artistic thought,
>> as sense-perceptions-in-assemblage-becoming-art-in-the-making.
>>
>>
>>
>> ---- Original Message -----
>> From: "Dr. Harald Wenk" <hwenk-AT-web.de>
>> To: <deleuze-guattari-driftline.org-AT-lists.driftline.org>
>> Sent: Monday, March 07, 2005 8:53 AM
>> Subject: Re: [D-G] find the d&g in this
>>
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> do I interprete this right, thart she is only tasting the music if she
>> hears it at the same time?
>>
>> Greetings
>>
>> Harald Wenk
>>
>> Am Thu, 3 Mar 2005 17:04:58 -0500 schrieb joan carol urquhart
>> <jcu-AT-execulink.com>:
>>
>>> Report: Woman 'tastes' musical notes
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thursday, March 3, 2005 Posted: 1:18 PM EST (1818 GMT)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> LONDON, England (Reuters) -- Music can be a mouth-watering experience
>>> for
>>> one Swiss musician who "tastes" combinations of notes as distinct
>>> flavors,
>>> according to a report in the science journal Nature.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The 27-year-old woman known as E.S. is a synaesthete, someone who
>>> experiences sensation in more than one sense from the same stimulation,
>>> researchers said on Wednesday.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> When E.S. hears tone intervals, the difference in pitch between two
>>> tones,
>>> she not only can see the musical notes as different colors but can  
>>> taste
>>> the
>>> sounds.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "This is a special case of a musician who, when she hears tone
>>> intervals,
>>> she has a perception of a taste of a tone," said psychologist Michaela
>>> Esslen, of the University of Zurich in Switzerland.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "She doesn't imagine the taste, she really tastes it."
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The case of E.S. reported in Nature is exceptional because seeing
>>> letters or
>>> digits in a certain color is more common in synaesthesia.  It may also
>>> involve seeing a musical tone as a color.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> But E.S. sees the colors and depending on the tone intervals a symphony
>>> could be bittersweet, salty, sour or creamy.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Whenever she hears a specific musical interval, she automatically
>>> experiences a taste on her tongue that is consistently linked to that
>>> particular interval," the scientists said in the journal.
>>>
>>>
>>> They tested E.S.'s ability by applying solutions tasting sour, bitter,
>>> salty
>>> or sweet to her tongue and asking her to identify the tone intervals, a
>>> difficult task that requires musical training.
>>>
>>>
>>> When the applied tastes corresponded with the intervals she was able to
>>> identify them quicker than other musicians.
>>>
>>>
>>> "We found that E.S.'s tone-interval identification was perfect," the
>>> researchers said.
>>>
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>>
>>
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