Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 16:45:41 +0100 (BST) From: Lucy LeGentilSinge <lucy100millionyearsold-AT-yahoo.co.uk> Subject: Re: [D-G] D&G reading group To: deleuze-guattari-driftline.org-AT-lists.driftline.org I think a reading like the one you talk about and which never existed probably in real is like a debate on TV, and it's not possible to enjoy it and aswell enjoy litterature such as is actually DG. If you enjoy debates about DG and aswell enjoy DG, you should know by now about something is stuck wrong deep with you. if you feel enough conscious to be open and ask if you were not the one wrong, Correct it this way: Deleuze himself would have said influence of Modern Contemporary art on Thinking, or theory practice, is coming from outside or away than their own Deleuzian thought. Find out what to connect with. If we like Deleuze the option is between finding inspiration from or not from DG, but not in discussing DG's tools by mass-media tools like readings, poetic or accademic/individualist groups. NO to the Passivity of Deleuzian Readers and indifferent, such as "intellectuals", or deterritorialists. What's positive nowadays are the molecularist social movements, the analysis of productive key actors why those for example in need of DG would like to talk about and knot, anchor around things and do intereactive readings and enjoy such readings hoping by then and by reputation, DG should become interesting for them, all this is nonsense and stems from your self's passivity, and absence of democratic will around you. So sad! Actually sad that to visualise it, then should you be more happy and less subjectivised by other ppl's ideas. So forget about readings, either on Internet : if we gather here it's got nothing to do with DG in whatever way that is interesting for DG and us, their followers will agree blindly. The Neo-Cons will agree to this. So realize who you are and make a change. Why? More aside this, about specifically the net-Lists on DG. What could be interesting is to knot reading of DG around nothing. Yeas you read well. We would gain more by non Deleuzian, new movements of thoughts then rehearsing for n-th time DG here or other parts. Deleuze world-texts is void and haolds no deep interest for anybody. This list is dead since 2003 for example. Since then, actually since the US has led the invasion in Irak it seems the intellectual world is depressed by self-respect of your particular brain power and moved towards a depressive politics. I think it's interesting if you analyse it on an other "strata", and say according to this line: The absence of activity around DG, It's the future death of the last man, it's syndrome quickly disappearing from consciousness. But while we discuss it, it's not DG who killed him. Aside there's been "poetic reading", a word which expresses only the ressenting attitude of the hidden neo-conservative attitude of intellectuals populating pseudo avant-guardist schizo discourse (those like DG are Avant-Guardist) and lack of trust in the social molecule movements in the aferomentioned depressing countries like Global Politic assume, World Order, and spools created around absence of democratic standards of attention by those wanting to live the "life" of a brain, ie. those figuring as the enemies of contemporary intellectuals . Let's get not depressed with you and the likes, let the self-righteous of culture get out off their sad faces false ideas, and to the others get out of your consciousness and learn to fertilise the world in other way than we have taught you to do here: unlearn the past, become like erased last man, quick b4 you become ressentful and ronchon. --- john writer <johnwriter-AT-mac.com> wrote: > Are there any current online reading groups > discussing a specific D&G > text? > > Is it in the perview of the list to knot it around a > text? > John > _______________________________________________ > List address: deleuze-guattari-AT-driftline.org > Info: > http://lists.driftline.org/listinfo.cgi/deleuze-guattari-driftline.org > Archives: www.driftline.org > ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger - NEW crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ List address: deleuze-guattari-AT-driftline.org Info: http://lists.driftline.org/listinfo.cgi/deleuze-guattari-driftline.org Archives: www.driftline.org
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