Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 14:33:28 +0100 (BST)
Subject: Re: [D-G] D&G reading group
To: deleuze-guattari-driftline.org-AT-lists.driftline.org


Dear H.

It's not easy to think nowadays, but some people also
are wondering about Lucy other than me. And revolution
certainly can be lined up easily with experimentation
and populism. To be against revolution is contra
experimentative also experimentative. It's not the
good way to think, the right concepts. Philosopher are
not existing who can invent the concept . I am a
simple Psychologist, not a Philosopher, nor Poet for
what matters. Certainly the list is taking a new turn,
because the fading of the debate leaves place for Lucy
to bury his existence. Lol, Lucy and Shakespear, what
a contradiction. I am already worried about the new
turn of the list. The new egos. The possible
transversal line which could be decoding itself from
the list.

Lucy you look like a Nazi. I hope indeed Joan is right
by mentioning not to abide to Poetry here immediately,
automatically. To Writer I ask: what Socratism is for
you to Psychology? To Maria what contradiction can
there be aimed against the populist claim of the
Revolutionary Crimes placebo effect.

I am so pleased that the List is getting birth again.
and last to Lucy may the force vanish with you. Take a
leave of absence: because you also think too much
superficially about France and the attraction of the
magnetic forces of egoistic claim to innocence in this
"Revolution Bazar". Beware. 

Take Care

Lizz
--- "Dr. Harald Wenk" <hwenk-AT-web.de> wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> maybe a littlree buit old fashioned, but what about
> thinking well before  
> acting?
> Normally things used not to be sucg simple that
> noramlity suffices.
> 
> greetings Harald Wenk
> 
> Am Tue, 31 May 2005 18:29:11 -0600 schrieb Neil Todd
>  
> <skinnerboxing-AT-hotmail.com>:
> 
> > AH, THE MIGHTY REVOLUTION!  WHAT WARMTH IT BRINGS
> US!
> >
> >> From: Lucy LeGentilSinge
> <lucy100millionyearsold-AT-yahoo.co.uk>
> >> Reply-To:
> deleuze-guattari-driftline.org-AT-lists.driftline.org
> >> To:
> deleuze-guattari-driftline.org-AT-lists.driftline.org
> >> Subject: Re: [D-G] D&G reading group
> >> Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 16:45:41 +0100 (BST)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I think a reading like the one you talk about and
> >> which never existed probably in real is like a
> debate
> >> on TV, and it's not
> >> possible to enjoy it and aswell enjoy litterature
> such
> >> as is actually DG. If you enjoy debates about DG
> and
> >> aswell enjoy DG, you should know by now about
> >> something is stuck wrong deep with you. if you
> feel
> >> enough conscious to be open and ask if you were
> not
> >> the one wrong, Correct it this way:  Deleuze
> himself
> >> would have said influence of Modern Contemporary
> art
> >> on Thinking, or theory practice, is coming from
> >> outside or away than their own Deleuzian thought.
> Find
> >> out what to connect with. If we like Deleuze the
> >> option is between finding inspiration from or not
> from
> >> DG, but not in discussing DG's tools by
> mass-media
> >> tools like readings, poetic or
> accademic/individualist
> >> groups. NO to the Passivity of Deleuzian Readers
> and
> >> indifferent, such as "intellectuals", or
> >> deterritorialists. What's positive nowadays are
> the
> >> molecularist social movements, the analysis of
> >> productive key actors why those for example in
> need of
> >> DG would like to talk about and knot, anchor
> around
> >> things and do intereactive readings and enjoy
> such
> >> readings hoping by then and by reputation, DG
> should
> >> become interesting for them, all this is nonsense
> and
> >> stems from your self's passivity, and absence of
> >> democratic will around you. So sad! Actually sad
> that
> >> to visualise it, then should you be more happy
> and
> >> less subjectivised by other ppl's ideas. So
> forget
> >> about readings, either on Internet : if we gather
> here
> >> it's got nothing to do with DG in whatever way
> that is
> >> interesting for DG and us, their followers will
> agree
> >> blindly. The Neo-Cons will agree to this. So
> realize
> >> who you are and make a change. Why?
> >>
> >> More aside this, about specifically the net-Lists
> on
> >> DG.
> >> What could be interesting is to knot reading of
> DG
> >> around nothing. Yeas you read well. We would gain
> more
> >> by non Deleuzian, new movements of thoughts then
> >> rehearsing for n-th time DG here or other parts.
> >> Deleuze world-texts is void and haolds no deep
> >> interest for anybody.  This list is dead since
> 2003
> >> for example. Since then, actually since the US
> has led
> >> the invasion in Irak it seems the intellectual
> world
> >> is depressed by self-respect of your particular
> brain
> >> power and moved towards a depressive politics. I
> think
> >> it's interesting if you analyse it on an other
> >> "strata", and say according to this line: The
> absence
> >> of activity around DG, It's the future death of
> the
> >> last man, it's syndrome quickly disappearing from
> >> consciousness. But while we discuss it, it's not
> DG
> >> who killed him. Aside there's been "poetic
> reading", a
> >> word which expresses only the ressenting attitude
> of
> >> the hidden neo-conservative attitude of 
> intellectuals
> >> populating pseudo avant-guardist schizo discourse
> >> (those like DG are Avant-Guardist) and lack of
> trust
> >> in the social molecule movements in the
> aferomentioned
> >> depressing countries like Global Politic assume,
> World
> >> Order, and spools created around absence of
> democratic
> >> standards of attention by those wanting to live
> the
> >> "life" of a brain, ie. those figuring as the
> enemies
> >> of contemporary intellectuals . Let's get not
> >> depressed with you and the likes, let the
> >> self-righteous of culture get out off their sad
> faces
> >> false ideas, and to the others get out of your
> >> consciousness and learn to fertilise the world in
> >> other way than we have taught you to do here:
> unlearn
> >> the past, become like erased last man, quick b4
> you
> >> become ressentful and ronchon. --- john writer
> >> <johnwriter-AT-mac.com> wrote:
> >> > Are there any current online reading groups
> >> > discussing a specific D&G
> >> > text?
> >> >
> >> > Is it in the perview of the list to knot it
> around a
> >> > text?
> >> > John
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