To: <deleuze-guattari-driftline.org-AT-lists.driftline.org>
Subject: Re: [D-G] D&G reading group...a merry band
Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 08:28:33 -0400



It's interesting mb,
if academics give "poets" the power
to disuade them (from borderlines),
but not the other way around...

You comment brought me to this quote from ATP...

"If the anomalous is neither an individual nor a species,
then what is it?" (D&G)

Like Captain Ahab's white whale,
his white wall, his becoming-Moby Dick...

"That the anomalous is the borderline makes it easier for us
to understand the various positions it occupies in relation to
the pack or the multiplicity it borders, and the various positions
occupied by a fascinated Self...In any event, the pack has a
borderline, and an anomalous position, whenever in a given space
an animal is on the line or in the act of drawing the line in relation to
that which all the other members of the pack will fall into one
of two halves, left or right : a peripheral poisition, such that it is
impossible to tell if the nomalous is still in the band, already outside
the band, or at the shifting boundary of the band." (D&G)

>From their amazing writing machine to this list...


(This is not a poem.)






From: "maria-belen ordonez" Cc: <
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 12:07 AM
Subject: Re: [D-G] D&G reading group


This listserv is a contradiction and yet I'm inclined to reply. I will
however
attempt to say SOMETHING. The rhizome may start in the middle but its
existence
needs a line of flight that is always productive. So, do I attach my
thoughts
and words to revolution even if I think it is anti-experiment? OR do I urge
politely that people ELABORATE their cryptic thoughts?

mb





Quoting Liza Kozner <liza_kozner-AT-yahoo.co.uk>:

> --
> Hi Tedd Nodd,
>
> This incredible is not it's a revolution, IN the News
> and Coverage, has this not passed through the Veils of
> Maya ? Then shall we so effort strive, and it's
> sensation, the sensation of the revolution by one or
> the other way, of the French Revolution of the ultra
> ultra Leftist NO to TCE shall passed through Maya by
> veils when time obliges us to be void and let the
> sensation of it so America can get in powered with the
> event aswell.  By a sensation it will be offered to
> you, to realize the content of the event. Not by
> sadness.
>
> Bye Dear Friend unknown.
> - Neil Todd <skinnerboxing-AT-hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > AH, THE MIGHTY REVOLUTION!  WHAT WARMTH IT BRINGS
> > US!
> >
> > >From: Lucy LeGentilSinge
> > <lucy100millionyearsold-AT-yahoo.co.uk>
> > >Reply-To:
> > deleuze-guattari-driftline.org-AT-lists.driftline.org
> > >To:
> > deleuze-guattari-driftline.org-AT-lists.driftline.org
> > >Subject: Re: [D-G] D&G reading group
> > >Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 16:45:41 +0100 (BST)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >I think a reading like the one you talk about and
> > >which never existed probably in real is like a
> > debate
> > >on TV, and it's not
> > >possible to enjoy it and aswell enjoy litterature
> > such
> > >as is actually DG. If you enjoy debates about DG
> > and
> > >aswell enjoy DG, you should know by now about
> > >something is stuck wrong deep with you. if you feel
> > >enough conscious to be open and ask if you were not
> > >the one wrong, Correct it this way:  Deleuze
> > himself
> > >would have said influence of Modern Contemporary
> > art
> > >on Thinking, or theory practice, is coming from
> > >outside or away than their own Deleuzian thought.
> > Find
> > >out what to connect with. If we like Deleuze the
> > >option is between finding inspiration from or not
> > from
> > >DG, but not in discussing DG's tools by mass-media
> > >tools like readings, poetic or
> > accademic/individualist
> > >groups. NO to the Passivity of Deleuzian Readers
> > and
> > >indifferent, such as "intellectuals", or
> > >deterritorialists. What's positive nowadays are the
> > >molecularist social movements, the analysis of
> > >productive key actors why those for example in need
> > of
> > >DG would like to talk about and knot, anchor around
> > >things and do intereactive readings and enjoy such
> > >readings hoping by then and by reputation, DG
> > should
> > >become interesting for them, all this is nonsense
> > and
> > >stems from your self's passivity, and absence of
> > >democratic will around you. So sad! Actually sad
> > that
> > >to visualise it, then should you be more happy and
> > >less subjectivised by other ppl's ideas. So forget
> > >about readings, either on Internet : if we gather
> > here
> > >it's got nothing to do with DG in whatever way that
> > is
> > >interesting for DG and us, their followers will
> > agree
> > >blindly. The Neo-Cons will agree to this. So
> > realize
> > >who you are and make a change. Why?
> > >
> > >More aside this, about specifically the net-Lists
> > on
> > >DG.
> > >What could be interesting is to knot reading of DG
> > >around nothing. Yeas you read well. We would gain
> > more
> > >by non Deleuzian, new movements of thoughts then
> > >rehearsing for n-th time DG here or other parts.
> > >Deleuze world-texts is void and haolds no deep
> > >interest for anybody.  This list is dead since 2003
> > >for example. Since then, actually since the US has
> > led
> > >the invasion in Irak it seems the intellectual
> > world
> > >is depressed by self-respect of your particular
> > brain
> > >power and moved towards a depressive politics. I
> > think
> > >it's interesting if you analyse it on an other
> > >"strata", and say according to this line: The
> > absence
> > >of activity around DG, It's the future death of the
> > >last man, it's syndrome quickly disappearing from
> > >consciousness. But while we discuss it, it's not DG
> > >who killed him. Aside there's been "poetic
> > reading", a
> > >word which expresses only the ressenting attitude
> > of
> > >the hidden neo-conservative attitude of
> > intellectuals
> > >populating pseudo avant-guardist schizo discourse
> > >(those like DG are Avant-Guardist) and lack of
> > trust
> > >in the social molecule movements in the
> > aferomentioned
> > >depressing countries like Global Politic assume,
> > World
> > >Order, and spools created around absence of
> > democratic
> > >standards of attention by those wanting to live the
> > >"life" of a brain, ie. those figuring as the
> > enemies
> > >of contemporary intellectuals . Let's get not
> > >depressed with you and the likes, let the
> > >self-righteous of culture get out off their sad
> > faces
> > >false ideas, and to the others get out of your
> > >consciousness and learn to fertilise the world in
> > >other way than we have taught you to do here:
> > unlearn
> > >the past, become like erased last man, quick b4 you
> > >become ressentful and ronchon. --- john writer
> > ><johnwriter-AT-mac.com> wrote:
> > > > Are there any current online reading groups
> > > > discussing a specific D&G
> > > > text?
> > > >
> > > > Is it in the perview of the list to knot it
> > around a
> > > > text?
> > > > John
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