To: deleuze-guattari-driftline.org-AT-lists.driftline.org
Subject: Re: [D-G] D&G reading group
Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2005 14:57:40 +0200


Hello,

maybe a littlree buit old fashioned, but what about thinking well before  
acting?
Normally things used not to be sucg simple that noramlity suffices.

greetings Harald Wenk

Am Tue, 31 May 2005 18:29:11 -0600 schrieb Neil Todd  
<skinnerboxing-AT-hotmail.com>:

> AH, THE MIGHTY REVOLUTION!  WHAT WARMTH IT BRINGS US!
>
>> From: Lucy LeGentilSinge <lucy100millionyearsold-AT-yahoo.co.uk>
>> Reply-To: deleuze-guattari-driftline.org-AT-lists.driftline.org
>> To: deleuze-guattari-driftline.org-AT-lists.driftline.org
>> Subject: Re: [D-G] D&G reading group
>> Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 16:45:41 +0100 (BST)
>>
>>
>>
>> I think a reading like the one you talk about and
>> which never existed probably in real is like a debate
>> on TV, and it's not
>> possible to enjoy it and aswell enjoy litterature such
>> as is actually DG. If you enjoy debates about DG and
>> aswell enjoy DG, you should know by now about
>> something is stuck wrong deep with you. if you feel
>> enough conscious to be open and ask if you were not
>> the one wrong, Correct it this way:  Deleuze himself
>> would have said influence of Modern Contemporary art
>> on Thinking, or theory practice, is coming from
>> outside or away than their own Deleuzian thought. Find
>> out what to connect with. If we like Deleuze the
>> option is between finding inspiration from or not from
>> DG, but not in discussing DG's tools by mass-media
>> tools like readings, poetic or accademic/individualist
>> groups. NO to the Passivity of Deleuzian Readers and
>> indifferent, such as "intellectuals", or
>> deterritorialists. What's positive nowadays are the
>> molecularist social movements, the analysis of
>> productive key actors why those for example in need of
>> DG would like to talk about and knot, anchor around
>> things and do intereactive readings and enjoy such
>> readings hoping by then and by reputation, DG should
>> become interesting for them, all this is nonsense and
>> stems from your self's passivity, and absence of
>> democratic will around you. So sad! Actually sad that
>> to visualise it, then should you be more happy and
>> less subjectivised by other ppl's ideas. So forget
>> about readings, either on Internet : if we gather here
>> it's got nothing to do with DG in whatever way that is
>> interesting for DG and us, their followers will agree
>> blindly. The Neo-Cons will agree to this. So realize
>> who you are and make a change. Why?
>>
>> More aside this, about specifically the net-Lists on
>> DG.
>> What could be interesting is to knot reading of DG
>> around nothing. Yeas you read well. We would gain more
>> by non Deleuzian, new movements of thoughts then
>> rehearsing for n-th time DG here or other parts.
>> Deleuze world-texts is void and haolds no deep
>> interest for anybody.  This list is dead since 2003
>> for example. Since then, actually since the US has led
>> the invasion in Irak it seems the intellectual world
>> is depressed by self-respect of your particular brain
>> power and moved towards a depressive politics. I think
>> it's interesting if you analyse it on an other
>> "strata", and say according to this line: The absence
>> of activity around DG, It's the future death of the
>> last man, it's syndrome quickly disappearing from
>> consciousness. But while we discuss it, it's not DG
>> who killed him. Aside there's been "poetic reading", a
>> word which expresses only the ressenting attitude of
>> the hidden neo-conservative attitude of  intellectuals
>> populating pseudo avant-guardist schizo discourse
>> (those like DG are Avant-Guardist) and lack of trust
>> in the social molecule movements in the aferomentioned
>> depressing countries like Global Politic assume, World
>> Order, and spools created around absence of democratic
>> standards of attention by those wanting to live the
>> "life" of a brain, ie. those figuring as the enemies
>> of contemporary intellectuals . Let's get not
>> depressed with you and the likes, let the
>> self-righteous of culture get out off their sad faces
>> false ideas, and to the others get out of your
>> consciousness and learn to fertilise the world in
>> other way than we have taught you to do here: unlearn
>> the past, become like erased last man, quick b4 you
>> become ressentful and ronchon. --- john writer
>> <johnwriter-AT-mac.com> wrote:
>> > Are there any current online reading groups
>> > discussing a specific D&G
>> > text?
>> >
>> > Is it in the perview of the list to knot it around a
>> > text?
>> > John
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