Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2005 00:12:38 -0400 From: NZ <pretzelworld-AT-gmail.com> To: deleuze-guattari-driftline.org-AT-lists.driftline.org Subject: Re: [D-G] Awakening from the Nightmare of History by "Nightmare of History" I dont think Joyce was meaning "Nations constitute a shared fantasy of immortality." They seem reversed to me. I think the idea of "Shared ____" is key, however it refers to Joyces "_____ History" not "Nightmare ____ " because that would be K's idea of " Fantasy" whether it be "immortality" or whatever else. Hitchcock was a master of the nightmare ending. So all that complicated Hollywood psychology really just boils down to 500 B.C. Heraclitus? "The dead touch upon the living sleeping, who in turn touch upon the living waking. (Fr. 26)" & "4. Thus, the waking participate in a common light, in a common sight. The sleeping are not dead; they can hear a little. The dead can neither see nor hear. The sleeping have a role in what happens. Private though they are in their withdrawal and their closing, they still partake in the common, though they do not think they do. Absolute privacy and isolation is impossible for the living. The belief in a "private wisdom" is an illusion. Nevertheless, for Heraclitus, it is better to be awake than to be asleep. Furthermore, "One should not do things and say things as if one were sleeping." (Fr. 73) Many people, who do not know what is going on, walk and talk in their sleep." (read more at http://www.fred.net/tzaka/logos.html ) No matter what position he takes, Heraclitus really does it for me, even more than Balzac (yum). Not only does he "know" but he paints it as a scarey picture, kind of like "They Live Among Us" or "Dawn of the Dead." Are there are other movies that would make a better comparison? "American Psycho" was a pretty good movie, with the grueling music video style murders set to Huey Lewis. Unlike in the movies, the notion of a nightmare set to music is not so humourous as in 1969's "Altmont" where racist securty-gaurds murdered to the tune of "under my thumb." (but thats not a nightmare either that actually happened) 1993s "Tales From the Crypt" was a new hip-hop take on the old nightmare-horror comic book. And there was also the movie "Judgement Night" with its killer grunge-rap cross-over soundtrack. I am thinking of "Rap and the Esteem Econony" and Steven Levitt's "Freakonomics"... I will find them and post them... _______________________________________________ List address: deleuze-guattari-AT-driftline.org Info: http://lists.driftline.org/listinfo.cgi/deleuze-guattari-driftline.org Archives: www.driftline.org
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