Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 16:11:52 +0100 (BST) From: Gondo -Minnie <gondominnie-AT-yahoo.co.uk> Subject: RE: [D-G] grammar of Pretzel To: deleuze-guattari-driftline.org-AT-lists.driftline.org --- hwenk <hwenk-AT-web.de> wrote: > Hello, > > there is a discussion im ATP "Micropolitique andd > segmentarite" which might > be useful for this question. > There is a distinction between "mass" unorganised, > inspired by Canettis > book, and "class", which is more structured, for > example by unions. > As mass is a little bit more on the side of "micro", > so D&G seem to have > more sympathy for it this could be picked up also in the thread of reflexion on the subversion of grammar and in this particular instance it would lead to wonder if the language of atp cannot from this floating surface be so laid that the polarity can be flexible and "mass" be the horrendous quantas going in the "uncertain" directionm whereas "class" becomes the synonym of its patronymic equivalent like when you say in Fashion _ |waow this powerful Ferrari is very "classe"|. a new logic of ATP wherin the paradigmatism of the atp drum of concepts is ~restriated~ on a new plane that would please Deleuze et Guattari. the mass is not very sympathic but the notion of class is a good tool and then we could organize our labor movements by the help of atp thanks to their words and use the signs in a shifted way. the black holes could be created like in the French Litterature we could invent reterritorialization on walls so that we can prevent the drum of the warmongers in the industrial capital set of the ennemies. presignifiant could be used to this effect. i think JON mendel your idea to bring D.Jackson to Negri is unfaithful to the intent with which the spirit of ATP the pragmatism of the book. Lack of faith in the possibilities of "playing around with the notions. And Negri has voted YES for the EU Constitution. If you read the EU refused constitution you would see how inacceptable it was. They took all the last ten years various currents in Political Politicians and attempted to make us vote for THIS fuzzyness as a Constitution. Articles followed soon in Le Monde Diplomatique on EU having a Constitution as strong as a Constitution proper to the possible dignity of a new Continent size Democratic Assemblage such as EU that then could measure to the US paradigm and its industrial complex. A Singular way for Europe. an Assemblage of that kind to try this. To use the brains. And Negri instead played the role of the Politicians Politicians. He is blind. For labor movement the best advice is to study ATP in free minded way. ___________________________________________________________ How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps for FREE with Yahoo! Photos http://uk.photos.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ List address: deleuze-guattari-AT-driftline.org Info: http://lists.driftline.org/listinfo.cgi/deleuze-guattari-driftline.org Archives: www.driftline.org
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