File deleuze-guattari/deleuze-guattari.0510, message 47


From: "Julia Barclay" <julia-AT-flyingoutofsequence.org>
To: <deleuze-guattari-AT-lists.driftline.org>
Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 21:27:28 +0100
Subject: Re: [D-G] theater performance practitioners?


Yes, it's possible to come to the lab...at first I ask people to observe and 
then we work out a way of joining.  I have a good friend in Brussels who has 
worked with me and uses D&G as well with her work and who is definitely not 
an academic by nature.  Would you like me to put you too in touch, as she 
could also tell you first-hand what my work is like?  She is currently 
translating one of my pieces into French, in the hopes we could work 
together in Brussels.

Also, do you mind, if we try to do this, contacting each other off the list?
All best,
Julia
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Liza Kozner" <liza_kozner-AT-yahoo.co.uk>
To: <deleuze-guattari-AT-lists.driftline.org>
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 7:43 PM
Subject: Re: [D-G] theater performance practitioners?





hello. i have just on the webbeen and saw excerpts of what you said or what 
people say what you do. i did found not the part in: how i work yet found 
part on a dream in madison avenue in the link .

i liked the way you presented deleuze and guattari on saying we were, as if 
parts of our unconscious would be revolutionarry and part is fashistic, i 
think its not what i read as they really said it, but the way said like this 
pleases my fantasy, and its the first time i tell myself yes me too, part of 
me is fashist, and in a way you proposed, it was not something i should be 
frightened with, but something in the way that these facshist molecules or 
haeceiities were , just "there", floating within me.

its part of the dream therapy. yes it can be interesting. let me come to 
your laboratory i leave in brussels i can take the tube to london and arrive 
soon. i can because, well, next, in january i go to Montréal in to work with 
3D texture editors and sculpting and etceteri etcetera.

it must be interesting to see and to be in contact with those people you 
live with your way of life i am curious about it all, as all the culture, 
and you stands out as doing rhizomes and i wonder if it is interesting, if 
its the thing that i am looking after.

i have a tape of the last short i did which is a rather prediting of a movie 
and i send to your email connection  the portfolio with images are part of a 
movie a potential for work. a way of working. potential.

i am wondering how much it is revolutionnary, if your actors, how you work 
with them, i read about words you tell to your mamma, and i was wondering 
about deleuze's abstract machines etc, if, well you give the actor a 
possibility to insert lines you give them. what is new is like using the 
cutup for, what is new to me, i the cut up of text like there, are some 
poets doing some in interzone, about text that you can insert as an actor, i 
am wondering how revolutionnary, in the sense that, what exactly is the 
momentum that helps the actor to determine, this is my choice to say this 
cutup file now and when i say it, if all character is "being", if you use 
character at all, like a determination for revolutionar consistance somwhat, 
you see? but i am curious the way you work will ask you how to make contact.

it is about in the voices you hear also interesting that to be in a gap 
allows, not enter in a zone of, well like in the posted text on richard 
pinhas website, the choice, the alternative, or or. deleuze explains there 
is the dialectic of greece, then the totally different dialectic of present 
day, hegel, fichte, which par amounts to being as individual opposing the 
contradicting possibility of the individual which is nature and which allows 
to think, then there is the expressionist who wants creation, which do not 
want to think according to nature. and he chosses to think about Nietzsche 
as a third princincipled version, where you have the choice, see his 
website. but about, well i wonder if when you say i clap and make a resonant 
sound, inbetween art and philosophy, you create a choice between the two 
alternatives, a or .. or.. how is the actor encouraged to choose what is 
right in the moment: art or philosophy, unknown or known, etc. this is 
better for me, i should test and come
 to play, is this possible?

Liza.
bye

Liza



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