File deleuze-guattari/deleuze-guattari.0512, message 27


Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2005 08:43:16 +0000 (GMT)
To: deleuze-guattari-AT-lists.driftline.org
Subject: Re: [D-G] relating Deleuze to your work


ah it's nice. alone still. i miss Deleuze, and Guattari. Gillou et Feliz.
  i want to talk with them. i guess i'll have to wait. they're not
  here anymore,right?
  they d i e d 11 years ago.- :[
  lot's of festivities for Rabin, none for Deleuze, at least nothing this side .
  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
  harald, since you mention it. how do you cope with being a german, and having read what Niezsche said about them, i think about the "how am i so wise" chapters of Ecce Hommo".--
  since also the sometimes ambivalent forces in his aphorism on germans; or did you make a special image for yourself of the philosopher, like, there's mad, or he has "strange thoughts" because he wants to be a creative thinker, or, like some fragile people tend to rather take this philosophy seriously, and "he is right since he is the one talking" while you read him at least, were you choked, or rather finding for the first time someone thinking in a way that you like? if you would care to share?
  thanks.
   
  it's not that you are a bourgeois. i cannot point at it with the right words, but thus i use "middle class ideas" just to express these are either repressive, moral, blocking ideas. but i debloqued myself from their grip recently so it's really not to worry. tuti va bene.
  

hwenk <hwenk-AT-web.de> wrote:
  Hello Liza,

you are right, I meant self esteeem - after all I am still a german.
In my eeyes yoga, math, and being abkle to be alone for a while
is a pragmatic improvement, of body mind and soul - virtue
as meant by the romans, Spinoza, Nietzsche and Deleuze.
And how had put Deleuze "already done if you do it"
And for your information, maybe I am a little bourgeois
in your eyes but I have strong working class roots.

Greetings Dr. Harald Wenk

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Subject: Re: [D-G] relating Deleuze to your work


well alas you talk about bliss, and separating joy from fear, but are you
yourself creating this. you cannot escape the fact that your mails are very
moral, and wish to paternalize, saying, how you'r lacking self pride, and
you confuse pride now with self esteem. your mind is a capharnaum and that's
why your feeble body needs little assurance like maths to
confort you in your bourgeois lonely schizophrenic spirituality. i am just
ignoring your post from now on. they depress me.


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