Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 06:54:08 -0500 From: NZ <pretzelworld-AT-gmail.com> To: deleuze-guattari-AT-lists.driftline.org Subject: Re: [D-G] color In 1909 the dalai lama comments were quoted from various webblogs to show the general dialog that led up to his speech and after. I especially was pleased to find at the end, after the anticipation and after the event itself, was the comment about the audience question, asking for the lama's consent to the general scientific process. and as expected science (as a generality) indeed is granted the moral prudence of the lama. I tried to read these blogs without too much "reading into it" but the episode involving the petition against the lama reeks of counter-intelligence propaganda and made me feel as if the lama's blessing was a matter of price. As the leader of his tantic version of buddism, the lama travels the world to collect money by speaking at events. He has shared the stage with many great people around the world. the lama has a radicalism associated with him. according to belief, he has been sent to our world plane to help us with all the karmic repairs that are currently going on this plane. To most buddhists, our plane is a "low" plane or even an "evil" plane, that needs much help from other stronger-higher souls from other planes. that is why the lama is reincarnated here on earth. As a method of technique to "cure" our ills on this plane, the lama concentrates on "satisfying desire", a central tenet to tantric buddhist technique. In the case of his talk to neurobiologist in Washington, the lama was saying "yes" to whatever it takes to bring science to the point of getting us to a higher consciousness. In another part of his lecture, not quoted above, the lama concedes to the use of science to bring humanity to a higher consciouness. like it would be okay with him to swallow an "intelligence pill" for example... you dont have to be the dalai lama to know that humanity is lacking in consciouness right now and I think most would concede that science (mathmatics biology physcs etc included) seems to be the only savior we have against the madness we are seeing in our world. But it seems to me that, like a pope, the lama is used to get a faith based approval for questionable agenda. Furthermore it seems to me that the lama's only role in the arrangement is to submit to science, does he have any other voice. it seems odd to me that the lama would use his oppertunity as a "non-scientific-expander-of-consciouness" to submit to the the scientific method. where was his voice? the thrust of his talk was on meditation, and its use for expanding consciouness (in terms of logos, meditation is a lack of logos expandsion and instead works illumiates that negative space which logos cannot reach withing the context of the absolute.) To me the lama's position on these matters seems very weak and it is his faith based reputation which is being used to say yes to an obscure omnipotent scientific agenda that is again coming from the institution. I'm not ready to say this bad or anything, but it seems to be an interesting consession of some international significance. Meanwhile the subway strike continues in NYC, and the mayor bloomberg can be seen smiling all over the news. Pictures of him early this morning at the foot of the Brooklyn bridge shaking hands and smiling with people who've just walked across it, walking to work. it was an event that resembled the afternoon of 9-11 when the subways system collapsed. So Why would the mayor be smiling at this disaster? well, for him it is a political victory, not only will he be suing all the workers who've gone to strike, but now in the minds of most New yorkers, the organized strike perfectly resembles the aftermath of a terrorist attack itself. finally, "labor-rights" are becoming linked to "terrorism"..... _______________________________________________ List address: deleuze-guattari-AT-driftline.org Info: http://lists.driftline.org/listinfo.cgi/deleuze-guattari-driftline.org Archives: www.driftline.org
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