From: "hwenk" <hwenk-AT-web.de> To: <deleuze-guattari-AT-lists.driftline.org> Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 13:43:01 +0200 Subject: Re: [D-G] beyond psychiatry Hello, after pondering a while about the question, what the best help of a professional psychiatrist for schizophrenics could be, I have come about that avoidance of social drifting is very important. The last publication of Felix Guattari concerning his practice as a member of the directory board of the clinic "de la borde" is "Chaosmose" from 1993 - I have it only in French and don't know if is translated in English. The main issue is about subjectivation. As you as a professional surely knows, a lot of patients in a clinic doesn't finish their university degrees or other professional educations. As Guattari pointed out and also other schools of psychiatrists and anti-psychiatrists, one has to take in account the very intensive, companied with intensive crisis, life of the patients. >From a phenomenological point of view, they are in a very artificial "Lebenswelt", their stand in the society is poor. This not good for them at all. As you know this led to a very high quote of ambulant cures, avoiding stays in clinics as much as possible. Now, in Great Britain you had the already dead Laing. Before he became a famous anti-psychiatrist, he lived for a while with schizophrenic patients in a community. There were less then ten people, if I remember right. Now this is possibility to get own experience, helping them to help themselves without subjecting them overriding their own will and their instincts and nature. As I pointed out a lot of time in this list, "A healthy spirit habits in a healthy body". Therefore, less psychopharmaca, at best a lot of yoga with a lot of pranayama and kundalini or kriya yoga. As psychical crisis cost a lost of also bodily efforts, in my eyes a healthy body with in a good trained condition is absolute necessary for being cured. As you know, psychopharmaca tend to make the patients very calm und make them little motivated to move their body. Also the intellectual life is brought very much down to elementary desires. Therefore the use of psychophrmaca is at best very restrictive. The second part, a healthy mind, is at best trained with advanced intellectual efforts, also at best combined with some sort of qualification - as finishing university degrees or other professional qualifications. Mathematics as such is also very helpful, as it disciplines the mind beyond any ideological, religious, philosophical or esthetical controversies, letting the believes and opinions of the patients untouched. This gives also technical intellectual skills, which are bound to be proud of and to be accepted from others in a wide range. In general, it is good to look at the patients at most very serious, especially in moral or intellectual issues, sensible people and treat them as such. Greetings Harald Wenk -----Original Message----- From: deleuze-guattari-bounces-AT-lists.driftline.org [mailto:deleuze-guattari-bounces-AT-lists.driftline.org]On Behalf Of nicholas lalvani Sent: Sonntag, 5. Februar 2006 18:38 To: deleuze-guattari-AT-lists.driftline.org Subject: [D-G] beyond psychiatry Dear all, I was working as a psychiatrist in London until a year ago but was dismissed following a nightmarish few months during which I tried to bring to the attention of senior management a couple of members of staff who were behaving rather aggressively towards patients. My concerns were met with derision from management who infromed the two practioners of my concerns. The two practioners, both senior to me, then concoted a nice set of allegations concerning my hollding "views which could be deemed anti-psychiatry and thus put patients at risk". I was dismissed from my post and prevented from practicing again in London. During this period of confrontation, I read some of the works of Foucalt, Deleuze and Guttari, and felt that perhaps I was extremely naive in entering psychiatry with the hope of achieving anything which the "patients" mind find of value to their lives. I would like to know if there is a good introduction to the work of D+G which can lead on to further study and also what people's opinions are as to whether D+G feel there is anything worthwhile about thepursuit of psychiatry at all. Yours, Nick _________________________________________________________________ Be the first to hear what's new at MSN - sign up to our free newsletters! http://www.msn.co.uk/newsletters _______________________________________________ List address: deleuze-guattari-AT-driftline.org Info: http://lists.driftline.org/listinfo.cgi/deleuze-guattari-driftline.org Archives: www.driftline.org _______________________________________________ List address: deleuze-guattari-AT-driftline.org Info: http://lists.driftline.org/listinfo.cgi/deleuze-guattari-driftline.org Archives: www.driftline.org
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