Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 18:21:51 -0500 To: deleuze-guattari-AT-lists.driftline.org Subject: Re: [D-G] benjamin and violence i understand what you mean by "discursive", and I do enjoy very much taking off like a trampoline when I hit freud so very hard... yipee! I am busy reading Freud, for me it is important to see that freud can go beyond the pleasure principle (b/c when I try to talk freud to scientist-friends, they are unable to accept his old-fashiond models of determanism, but by going beyond p.p. (and doo-doo for DyG, y'know?!) those dumb homosexual models are no longer seen so strictly.) The reason I like the narrative plot, is because such communication on this list is so nebulous and crazy, I feel it is most straight fowward to present my writing as a plot to follow or ignore, it is not a debate and neither am I trying to persuade anybody.. I find the stories to be very big and intersect all with eachother from different peoples writting, like one giant unconnected story. I do not know what you have written about freud-tv-namjunpaik. I looked online in the list database but could only find the correspondence with sunhunter, which delt with bspinoza. I think njp was one of the most interesting artists of the most recent 50 years. I like his "Thinker" which is also rodin's thinker merely watching himself on a tv set. Mimesis as experienced by a machine becoming a machine, today that is supposed to be a version of enlightenment, to know our own nature, it is an issue for zspinoza too. the memisis of truth, becoming true, even if such a thing does not exist. I do fee that Spinoza is also a founder of discusivites (not just freud, marx, or foucault), bspinoza, has also founded a mode of thinking about subjects which has been construooded in un-intended ways. I thnk the point that the man is different from his text is crucial, just by entering the logos spinoza has become something else, perverted, not just a man interacting with the world with language of intelligence, but in the logos his thoughts become a code which anyone can use for any reason they choose... the king of france, the church, clausewitz, or even rambo. (btw, pv replaces the clausewitz model with his rambo model of modern warfare).... so, the tv-code, I must watch some right now! I am missing something, must go now... _______________________________________________ List address: deleuze-guattari-AT-driftline.org Info: http://lists.driftline.org/listinfo.cgi/deleuze-guattari-driftline.org Archives: www.driftline.org
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