Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 11:17:50 -0400 From: NZ <pretzelworld-AT-gmail.com> To: deleuze-guattari-AT-lists.driftline.org Subject: Re: [D-G] deleuze and benjamin on violence if you do study the passions and the techniques on manipulating the soul you will find aninteresting assumption therein, that "anger" specifically (and not necessarily the other 8 passions) is bound to logos, meaning language here. This idea that words "create" angry characgteristics in man, is very old and can be found everywhere from prometheus (and the laws that followed) to freud and the talking method of pychoanalysis. as logos changes historicallly we can see the variety of temperments of angry colors in people. whethere its statements on unenclosed property as having justified the displacement of the Native Americans in the 1700s or rousseau's contract for poland, the language itself defines the violence allowed to be commited. Yes there are some inuit tribes today(or was it yesterday?) that do not have words for anger and lo and behold... they do not even physically express anger to each other... or have expressions for anger either. Is anger as so-called universal expression? (re: botox) their word for anger = "childish whit woman" note: (this is an expression as in actor's expressed hydraulic emotions... re:Narravitv of history)) what HWenk is suggesting to do is use "source" as critique of pure violence. where going back and using the "correct" words for things, why now? so that a better philosoohy-machine can be built? a more moral machine? that is one question... the other is... why not use the technique of logos building and make up new words for these very important things... new words like BwO and rhyzome (though I believe this words is not new to philos. from dyG but from 1830s somewhere in england I think, must look this up still..) detentional (as agaist intention) is one of my personal favorite new words. anyway.. "confusion" is better then anger as a response, but I am aware that it will lead to anger very soon... expecially if i keep spiraling into a discussion of logos, buyt why am i alone? _______________________________________________ List address: deleuze-guattari-AT-driftline.org Info: http://lists.driftline.org/listinfo.cgi/deleuze-guattari-driftline.org Archives: www.driftline.org
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