Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 11:48:12 -0400 From: NZ <pretzelworld-AT-gmail.com> To: deleuze-guattari-AT-lists.driftline.org Subject: Re: [D-G] deleuze and benjamin on violence just to bite deeper into the issue between myself and Hwenk: " To life in security a comfortable, if possible a happy life. Therfore the governemnt is the sefvant of the people in a democracy. And this means in my eyes not to begin to fight or struggle (against the government for example) before even one word to an issue is said."" here is the critical difference of pov./principle of philosophy vs hapiness The ideal dogma of democracy I have trouble seeing as an actual part of reality (other then just dogma). the ideal of democracy(like communist dogma) is moral in sofar as it is an ends (re: wbenj's violence and fate discussion). so when in reality I am expected to treat such a dogma as something more then just principle, that I am supposed to actually sit down and discuss some hypotheical virtuals of that dogma, I have difficulty see the point really as such a discussion will only lead to a stronger/richer dogma that can be impressed upon the "consenting public." Such a discussion does not deal with "expanding possibilty of life" but rather better acclimating a body to a more-and-more moral "detentional existence." it is the intention that is missing for me to see this p.o.v. as ethically "good." but I can understand why some people (rousseau for ex.) would see it as good interms of good/sound philosophy, but not me I see it as detentional. _______________________________________________ List address: deleuze-guattari-AT-driftline.org Info: http://lists.driftline.org/listinfo.cgi/deleuze-guattari-driftline.org Archives: www.driftline.org
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