From: "hwenk" <hwenk-AT-web.de> To: <deleuze-guattari-AT-lists.driftline.org> Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 11:44:47 +0200 Subject: Re: [D-G] deleuze and benjamin on violence Hello, what i expressed in my last email is that you say you want to discusss and get new opinions and to understand me. But in your email praxis I find things which in conventional terms erxpress and do the opposit. A if I ananswered your question, instead of taking that up you change the theme and perhaps, as in the email indicated, start to ironize that. As a reader of Deleuze and Guattari you certainly know that this is the structure of illmaking - especially schizophrenizing - expressions of feelings and thinking. As Nietzsche had put it: "You may lie with the words, but the face you make is still telling the truth". This in a discussion group concerning Deleuze and Guattari is very puzzling and unexpected. So I discussed a lot the theme of violence, arguing in a most selfcontended and for everyone understandable way. In my eyes I gave standard arguments which are shared of almost all, esecially academic educated people. But until now I still don't know why these arguments are overrun or play no role and what you think about pure violence and what benefit you imagine it could bring in our concrete political or a private situation. The essay of Benjamin has a lot of aspects, even if it is read. So which one in what interpretaion is meant? greetings Harald Wenk -----Original Message----- From: deleuze-guattari-bounces-AT-lists.driftline.org [mailto:deleuze-guattari-bounces-AT-lists.driftline.org]On Behalf Of NZ Sent: Dienstag, 25. April 2006 00:30 To: deleuze-guattari-AT-lists.driftline.org Subject: Re: [D-G] deleuze and benjamin on violence At least between you and me, I feel like I'm getting an education about some subjects that i would otherwise be ignorant, and this I appreciate( I hope to provide for you a unique reading that can be expanded instead of excluding). So in whatever capacity you'd like to continue, be welcome. I am not trying to be a fiesty bastard with what you talk about (re:stasis) but I just would like to help direct it back into the questions that N posed in the opening of this thread. I do like those questions. I think it was... pure-violence? positive law? (and not natural law as wben is critiquing sovereignty, not humanity... yes?) internal? external? how agamben reads wbenj? unilateralism? trans-atlantic crisis? Of course I already have loads of opinions about all of these words and how they are used, but I am slowly becoming self conscious because of the chorus who has nothing to say really except that it is not happy. ultimatly I really would like to get beyond what I already know (re: true enlightenment) and if I could download that data please let me know where. Ultimately I would like to drive this discussion into the sophic paradox of knowlege. I personally see that as one of the biggest problems esp. the comedic/tragic relationship between the "sophic paradox and capitalism." Perhaps it unfair for me to ask you a question and then use your answer to direct my stasis, but it has certainly helped me understand how it is that other psyche are able to see these same illuminations that I do. the words that I have to answer for my stasis are... conservatism? intelligence? america? europe? rhythm? stasis? etc... really, its a long list that does not belong all in one place. _______________________________________________ List address: deleuze-guattari-AT-driftline.org Info: http://lists.driftline.org/listinfo.cgi/deleuze-guattari-driftline.org Archives: www.driftline.org _______________________________________________ List address: deleuze-guattari-AT-driftline.org Info: http://lists.driftline.org/listinfo.cgi/deleuze-guattari-driftline.org Archives: www.driftline.org
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