From: "Julia Barclay" <julia-AT-flyingoutofsequence.org> To: <deleuze-guattari-AT-lists.driftline.org> Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 13:59:55 +0100 Subject: Re: [D-G] deleuze and benjamin on violence it is sadly usually like this which is why I so rarely post to it anymore... ----- Original Message ----- From: <andw-AT-riseup.net> To: <deleuze-guattari-AT-lists.driftline.org> Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 1:30 PM Subject: Re: [D-G] deleuze and benjamin on violence >i am new to this list, but are the writings here always so personal/ego > stylin/esoteric? > > bit hard to tell what the hell is being said or discussed! > > but maybe that is the point? (smoke and mirrors makes an interesting > labyrinth? at least to the one who is conjuring it up?!) > > -a > > > > >> getting directly to the code is sometimes crucial for survival, >> without itLife would be tragic (re: Comedy/narrative as forms") I know >> I'm supposed to have a code for my >> ideas/action/(praxis=blogging=putrification) but recognition of code >> is sometimes difficult after major cerebral infection(couldn't you >> tell?). Unlike my warped cranial mesh, I think the code is fairly >> complete and in any regards not even necessary at this point, as the >> code has already become semi-conscious of itself and on its own >> accord and fled these harse environments. all this even before I was >> able to identify what it was I was looking for.... near starvation... >> days had gone by, a week really, but in the anallogs I can remind >> myself of what the primordial ooze must of felt like: >> >> "Now the critical function of philosophy/ is to move away from fixed >> ideas, >> making one not to see possibilities of living which are actual there. >> >> The positive function is to look >> at sources which are not used until now." >> -- >> how long of a "now", 10days ago?, give or take a year? 350 years, the >> social contract? Its a source and reference and model. It has >> everything to do with positivism and positive law and positively >> violence. (remember natural law was not a discussion yet (re: >> wbenj.textt), and I would perfer it if it werent a formal >> "disccussion" at all, but I do enjoy imagining scenarios erupting in >> civil society where questions of natural law could come up.... like >> what are the ethical reprocussions of when a young man throws an egg >> at a police car?...s.i.f.l virutals. sifl...later) >> >> >> rousseau's contract was not so concerned with ending the oppression of >> men in chains - but answers the q: >> >> "how can it be made legitimate", made reasonalbe and Just. <--- THAT >> there >> moreover, >> "force cannot be used to control the will of the people, only consent* >> can >> the total alienation of each associat of himself and all his rights to >> the whole community >> since the aliation is unconditional no associate has anyother rights to >> claim" >> """ >> blab, blab, logos, locke really wrestled rouseau about this and this >> fun -de-mentally infected greater amereiche. but locke was merely >> being a bastard and sidelining the real issue which is just "consent" >> and really how "money equivocates consent." Capitalism married to >> Imperialism needed free-markets and Locke ruled in 1770s, (America, >> Australia, Perry in Japan) and as a contract it was full of loopholes >> that can be equivocated in courts, just like they are today on the >> front page of the newspaper. Rousseau faired better in Europe as a >> techique for civilianizing the population(re: poland france). This is >> a positivism that rouseau was responding to and acknowledging but not >> yet denying... justifying really. The idea is that, the better >> informed the passive state is, then the less likely its spartan >> soviergn twin will act out aggressively, unintentional aggression. >> Since the state's initial relationship with religeous institutions >> prevented it from utilizing Scientific techniques for informaton >> gathering there needed to be discovered methods for massive social >> control at the pschological level. This involved canonizing >> mathematica works and eating pharoh's circumcised cartush such >> re-territorializing of tragic spinoza on sunday morning. Most of the >> real violence, are the orchestrated wars of the soveregin economy, >> ww1ww2ww3(now, its happening today!) are outside of the s.c., meaning >> that such things are not allowed in the contract(and furthermore... as >> a contract it is pretty weak if nobody has signed it yet, I'm still >> searching for the name of someone who has actually signed it, google? >> - sotherwise it is just dogma, otherwize its just dogma, and is that >> good?) >> >> what I am interested in is finding the clues in r's social contract >> that told napoleon to steal the mona lisa? >> >> >> the pointy-point that pricks me is the : >> using the sources is like writing the code >> (do I want to share my code?) >> >> here is another interpretation of the issue: >> the purpose of p-h-i-l-o-s-o-p-h-y = enlarge/explain life = thereby >> [giving newXopportunities to (think + act)] >> >> where: >> (p.h.i.l.)o.(s.o.p.h.y) >> >> p.eople >> h.ave >> i.nteresting >> l.ogos >> o.nly <------CENTER OF THE SPHINX ( very important fact!!!) >> s.ome >> o.wn (their own) >> p.hilosopy (and that) >> .h.appens to b e >> y.ou! >> >> >> >> ... anyway I think >> >> compare rousseau(age37) sitting under a tree in the middle of >> philosophic revelation to rousseau(of NewJersey circa1998) would he >> have the same revelation again and again? >> >> """" >> " """" >> " " " " " " "" " " " " " >> Detentional arts vs >> the purpose of a-r-t = enlarge/explain life = thereby [giving >> newXopportunities to (think + act)] >> >> """" >> " """" >> >> I do think there is abc... >> _______________________________________________ >> List address: deleuze-guattari-AT-driftline.org >> Info: >> http://lists.driftline.org/listinfo.cgi/deleuze-guattari-driftline.org >> Archives: www.driftline.org >> > > > _______________________________________________ > List address: deleuze-guattari-AT-driftline.org > Info: > http://lists.driftline.org/listinfo.cgi/deleuze-guattari-driftline.org > Archives: www.driftline.org _______________________________________________ List address: deleuze-guattari-AT-driftline.org Info: http://lists.driftline.org/listinfo.cgi/deleuze-guattari-driftline.org Archives: www.driftline.org
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