Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 09:25:18 -0400
To: <deleuze-guattari-AT-lists.driftline.org>
Subject: Re: [D-G] deleuze and benjamin on violence


Ditto...


On 4/11/06 9:11 AM, "lesley gallacher" <lesley.gallacher-AT-ed.ac.uk> wrote:

> it is pretty much entirely like this, which explains why i haven't
> posted before.
> 
> lesley
> 
> 
> On 11 Apr 2006, at 13.30, andw-AT-riseup.net wrote:
> 
>> i am new to this list, but are the writings here always so personal/
>> ego
>> stylin/esoteric?
>> 
>> bit hard to tell what the hell is being said or discussed!
>> 
>> but maybe that is the point? (smoke and mirrors makes an interesting
>> labyrinth? at least to the one who is conjuring it up?!)
>> 
>> -a
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> getting directly to the code is sometimes crucial for survival,
>>> without itLife would be tragic (re: Comedy/narrative as forms") I
>>> know
>>> I'm supposed to have a code for my
>>> ideas/action/(praxis=blogging=putrification) but recognition of code
>>> is sometimes difficult after major cerebral infection(couldn't you
>>> tell?). Unlike my warped cranial mesh, I think the code is fairly
>>> complete and in any regards not even necessary at this point, as the
>>> code has already become semi-conscious of itself and  on its own
>>> accord and fled these harse environments. all this even before I was
>>> able to identify what it was I was looking for.... near starvation...
>>> days had gone by, a week really, but in the anallogs I can remind
>>> myself of what the primordial ooze must of felt like:
>>> 
>>> "Now the critical function of philosophy/ is to move away from fixed
>>> ideas,
>>> making one not to see possibilities of living which are actual there.
>>> 
>>> The positive function is to look
>>> at sources which are not used until now."
>>> --
>>> how long of a "now", 10days ago?, give or take a year? 350 years, the
>>> social contract? Its a source and reference and model. It has
>>> everything to do with positivism and positive law and positively
>>> violence. (remember natural law was not a discussion yet (re:
>>> wbenj.textt), and I would perfer it if it werent a formal
>>> "disccussion" at all, but I do enjoy imagining scenarios erupting in
>>> civil society where questions of natural law could come up.... like
>>> what are the ethical reprocussions of when a young man throws an egg
>>> at a police car?...s.i.f.l virutals. sifl...later)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> rousseau's contract was not so concerned with ending the
>>> oppression of
>>> men in chains - but answers the q:
>>> 
>>>  "how can it be made legitimate", made reasonalbe and Just. <--- THAT
>>> there
>>> moreover,
>>> "force cannot be used to control the will of the people, only
>>> consent* can
>>> the total alienation of each associat of himself and all his
>>> rights to
>>> the whole community
>>> since the aliation is unconditional no associate has anyother
>>> rights to
>>> claim"
>>> """
>>> blab, blab, logos, locke really wrestled rouseau about this and this
>>> fun -de-mentally infected greater amereiche. but locke was merely
>>> being a bastard and sidelining the real issue which is just "consent"
>>> and really how "money equivocates consent." Capitalism married to
>>> Imperialism needed free-markets and Locke ruled in 1770s, (America,
>>> Australia, Perry in Japan) and as a contract it was full of loopholes
>>> that can be equivocated in courts, just like they are today on the
>>> front page of the newspaper. Rousseau faired better in Europe as a
>>> techique for civilianizing the population(re: poland france).
>>> This is
>>> a positivism that rouseau was responding to and acknowledging but not
>>> yet denying... justifying really. The idea is that, the better
>>> informed the passive state is, then the less likely its spartan
>>> soviergn twin will act out aggressively, unintentional aggression.
>>> Since the state's initial relationship with religeous institutions
>>> prevented it from utilizing Scientific techniques for informaton
>>> gathering there needed to be discovered  methods for massive social
>>> control at the pschological level. This involved canonizing
>>> mathematica works and eating pharoh's circumcised cartush  such
>>> re-territorializing of tragic spinoza on sunday morning.  Most of the
>>> real violence, are the orchestrated wars of the soveregin economy,
>>> ww1ww2ww3(now, its happening today!) are outside of the s.c., meaning
>>> that such things are not allowed in the contract(and
>>> furthermore... as
>>> a contract it is pretty weak if nobody has signed it yet, I'm still
>>> searching for the name of someone who has actually signed it, google?
>>> - sotherwise it is just dogma, otherwize its just dogma, and is that
>>> good?)
>>> 
>>> what I am interested in is finding the clues in r's social contract
>>> that told napoleon to steal the mona lisa?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> the pointy-point that pricks me is the :
>>> using the sources is like writing the code
>>> (do I want to share my code?)
>>> 
>>> here is another interpretation of  the issue:
>>> the purpose of p-h-i-l-o-s-o-p-h-y = enlarge/explain life =  thereby
>>> [giving newXopportunities to (think + act)]
>>> 
>>> where:
>>> (p.h.i.l.)o.(s.o.p.h.y)
>>> 
>>> p.eople
>>> h.ave
>>> i.nteresting
>>> l.ogos
>>> o.nly       <------CENTER OF THE SPHINX ( very important fact!!!)
>>> s.ome
>>> o.wn (their own)
>>> p.hilosopy (and that)
>>> .h.appens to b e
>>> y.ou!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ... anyway I think
>>> 
>>> compare rousseau(age37) sitting under a tree in the middle of
>>> philosophic revelation to rousseau(of NewJersey circa1998) would he
>>> have the same revelation again and again?
>>> 
>>> """"
>>> " """"
>>> " " " " " " "" " " " " "
>>> Detentional arts vs
>>> the purpose of a-r-t = enlarge/explain life =  thereby [giving
>>> newXopportunities to (think + act)]
>>> 
>>> """"
>>> " """"
>>> 
>>> I do think there is abc...
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