Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 09:25:18 -0400 To: <deleuze-guattari-AT-lists.driftline.org> Subject: Re: [D-G] deleuze and benjamin on violence Ditto... On 4/11/06 9:11 AM, "lesley gallacher" <lesley.gallacher-AT-ed.ac.uk> wrote: > it is pretty much entirely like this, which explains why i haven't > posted before. > > lesley > > > On 11 Apr 2006, at 13.30, andw-AT-riseup.net wrote: > >> i am new to this list, but are the writings here always so personal/ >> ego >> stylin/esoteric? >> >> bit hard to tell what the hell is being said or discussed! >> >> but maybe that is the point? (smoke and mirrors makes an interesting >> labyrinth? at least to the one who is conjuring it up?!) >> >> -a >> >> >> >> >>> getting directly to the code is sometimes crucial for survival, >>> without itLife would be tragic (re: Comedy/narrative as forms") I >>> know >>> I'm supposed to have a code for my >>> ideas/action/(praxis=blogging=putrification) but recognition of code >>> is sometimes difficult after major cerebral infection(couldn't you >>> tell?). Unlike my warped cranial mesh, I think the code is fairly >>> complete and in any regards not even necessary at this point, as the >>> code has already become semi-conscious of itself and on its own >>> accord and fled these harse environments. all this even before I was >>> able to identify what it was I was looking for.... near starvation... >>> days had gone by, a week really, but in the anallogs I can remind >>> myself of what the primordial ooze must of felt like: >>> >>> "Now the critical function of philosophy/ is to move away from fixed >>> ideas, >>> making one not to see possibilities of living which are actual there. >>> >>> The positive function is to look >>> at sources which are not used until now." >>> -- >>> how long of a "now", 10days ago?, give or take a year? 350 years, the >>> social contract? Its a source and reference and model. It has >>> everything to do with positivism and positive law and positively >>> violence. (remember natural law was not a discussion yet (re: >>> wbenj.textt), and I would perfer it if it werent a formal >>> "disccussion" at all, but I do enjoy imagining scenarios erupting in >>> civil society where questions of natural law could come up.... like >>> what are the ethical reprocussions of when a young man throws an egg >>> at a police car?...s.i.f.l virutals. sifl...later) >>> >>> >>> rousseau's contract was not so concerned with ending the >>> oppression of >>> men in chains - but answers the q: >>> >>> "how can it be made legitimate", made reasonalbe and Just. <--- THAT >>> there >>> moreover, >>> "force cannot be used to control the will of the people, only >>> consent* can >>> the total alienation of each associat of himself and all his >>> rights to >>> the whole community >>> since the aliation is unconditional no associate has anyother >>> rights to >>> claim" >>> """ >>> blab, blab, logos, locke really wrestled rouseau about this and this >>> fun -de-mentally infected greater amereiche. but locke was merely >>> being a bastard and sidelining the real issue which is just "consent" >>> and really how "money equivocates consent." Capitalism married to >>> Imperialism needed free-markets and Locke ruled in 1770s, (America, >>> Australia, Perry in Japan) and as a contract it was full of loopholes >>> that can be equivocated in courts, just like they are today on the >>> front page of the newspaper. Rousseau faired better in Europe as a >>> techique for civilianizing the population(re: poland france). >>> This is >>> a positivism that rouseau was responding to and acknowledging but not >>> yet denying... justifying really. The idea is that, the better >>> informed the passive state is, then the less likely its spartan >>> soviergn twin will act out aggressively, unintentional aggression. >>> Since the state's initial relationship with religeous institutions >>> prevented it from utilizing Scientific techniques for informaton >>> gathering there needed to be discovered methods for massive social >>> control at the pschological level. This involved canonizing >>> mathematica works and eating pharoh's circumcised cartush such >>> re-territorializing of tragic spinoza on sunday morning. Most of the >>> real violence, are the orchestrated wars of the soveregin economy, >>> ww1ww2ww3(now, its happening today!) are outside of the s.c., meaning >>> that such things are not allowed in the contract(and >>> furthermore... as >>> a contract it is pretty weak if nobody has signed it yet, I'm still >>> searching for the name of someone who has actually signed it, google? >>> - sotherwise it is just dogma, otherwize its just dogma, and is that >>> good?) >>> >>> what I am interested in is finding the clues in r's social contract >>> that told napoleon to steal the mona lisa? >>> >>> >>> the pointy-point that pricks me is the : >>> using the sources is like writing the code >>> (do I want to share my code?) >>> >>> here is another interpretation of the issue: >>> the purpose of p-h-i-l-o-s-o-p-h-y = enlarge/explain life = thereby >>> [giving newXopportunities to (think + act)] >>> >>> where: >>> (p.h.i.l.)o.(s.o.p.h.y) >>> >>> p.eople >>> h.ave >>> i.nteresting >>> l.ogos >>> o.nly <------CENTER OF THE SPHINX ( very important fact!!!) >>> s.ome >>> o.wn (their own) >>> p.hilosopy (and that) >>> .h.appens to b e >>> y.ou! >>> >>> >>> >>> ... anyway I think >>> >>> compare rousseau(age37) sitting under a tree in the middle of >>> philosophic revelation to rousseau(of NewJersey circa1998) would he >>> have the same revelation again and again? >>> >>> """" >>> " """" >>> " " " " " " "" " " " " " >>> Detentional arts vs >>> the purpose of a-r-t = enlarge/explain life = thereby [giving >>> newXopportunities to (think + act)] >>> >>> """" >>> " """" >>> >>> I do think there is abc... >>> _______________________________________________ >>> List address: deleuze-guattari-AT-driftline.org >>> Info: >>> http://lists.driftline.org/listinfo.cgi/deleuze-guattari- >>> driftline.org >>> Archives: www.driftline.org >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> List address: deleuze-guattari-AT-driftline.org >> Info: http://lists.driftline.org/listinfo.cgi/deleuze-guattari- >> driftline.org >> Archives: www.driftline.org > > _______________________________________________ > List address: deleuze-guattari-AT-driftline.org > Info: http://lists.driftline.org/listinfo.cgi/deleuze-guattari-driftline.org > Archives: www.driftline.org André Lepecki Assistant Professor Dept. of Performance Studies New York University (212) 998-1629 _______________________________________________ List address: deleuze-guattari-AT-driftline.org Info: http://lists.driftline.org/listinfo.cgi/deleuze-guattari-driftline.org Archives: www.driftline.org
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