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Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 06:23:20 +0100
From: "Harris, Philip A" <P.A.Harris-AT-kingston.ac.uk>
To: <deleuze-guattari-AT-lists.driftline.org>
Subject: Re: [D-G] a close words to Nz and Jussi


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Subject:=20Re:=20[D-G]=20a=20close=20words=20to=20Nz=20and=20Jussi



she=20is=20pneumatic=20and=20nomadic...=20she=20speeks=20the=20bastardized=20english
that=20was=20formed=20at=20the=20base=20of=20a=20racketball=20court,=20banged=20and=20balled
at=20the=20edge=20of=20europe=20for=20centuries.=20she=20speaks=20a=20little=20german,
french,=20latin,=20greek=20and=20spanish=20but=20her=20favorite=20words=20in=20german=20are
today=20eisenstein's=20"grund=20problem"=20(the=20problem=20of=20expression=20of
sensation=20through=20art)=20and=20also=20"ubergrief"=20(that=20basic=20motivational
force=20that=20brings=20one=20out=20of=20depression=20and=20into=20dialectic
response)...=20"das=20carnikel"=20(it=20is=20also=20H=E4schen)=20which=20is=20a=20special
kind=20of=20bunny=20that=20will=20not=20run=20away=20or=20live=20freely=20yet=20is=20living
happily=20(like=20w.blake=20babies.)

-----

I=20dont=20mean=20to=20get=20all=20mystical=20with=20these=20numbers=20(they=20are=20not=20so
important),=20i=20was=20asked=20to=20explain=20a=20bit.=20it=20is=20best=20most=20of=20all=20to
understand=20the=20general=20totemistic=20movements=20that=20operate=20by=20code,=20that
is=20when=20the=20totem=20is=20taking=20us=20up,=20yes=20like=20socrates=20in=20fact=20puts
things=20into=20a=20vertical=20plane=20too.=20up...=20north....=20like=20northrup=20frye,
have=20you=20read=20his=20writting=20about=20critical=20theory?=20his=20is=20a=20christian
minister=20and=20it=20is=20very=20revealing=20to=20me=20when=20I=20read=20it=20because=20I=20like
to=20substitute=20the=20nouns=20he=20uses=20with=20my=20own=20nouns=20and=20I=20am=20able=20to
understand=20him=20better.
----
I=20am=20personally=20not=20so=20very=20much=20fond=20these=20kinds=20of=20mystic
concideration=20of=20numbers,=20it=20is=20silly,=20something=20for=2040=20year=20old
hasids=20to=20occupy=20their=20time=20when=20they=20are=20unable=20to=20use=20electricity=20or
kiss=20a=20fresh=20cut=20goyem.=20but=20there=20is=20a=20point=20that=20I'm=20trying=20to=20make
and=20I=20hope=20that=20it=20doesn't=20make=20too=20many=20of=20the=20philosophy=20professors
grumble...=20that=20point=20is=20basically=20the=20power=20of=20logos,=20personal=20logos
as=20in=20hypomnemata.

when=20the=20christian=20god=20is=20taught=20to=20be=20inside=20of=20us,=20it=20is=20a=20christian
logos=20that=20is=20inside=20of=20us.=20the=20teaching=20is=20good=20(in=20that=20it=20says=20to
look=20inside)=20but=20it=20is=20really=20totemistic=20and=20external,=20bringing=20us=20to
3,=20away=20from=20the=202=20which=20is=20where=20the=20personal=20logos=20sits.=20the
christian=20is=20asked=20to=20loose=20this=20aspect,=20they=20even=20use=20self
descriptions=20like=20mono-theism=20suggesting=20a=20slower=20movement=20from=202=20to
1,=20sheesh!

the=20problem=20being=20at=203=20is=20that=20it=20is=20not=202,=20it=20nullifies=20the=20logos=20as
such=20and=20"rebirths"=20us=20like=20a=20conversion=20of=20anamnesis.=20the=20good=20thing
about=20being=20at=20the=20lower=202=20is=20that=20it=20allows=20for=203=20to=20exist=20as=20a
potential=20dialectic=20aim=20which=20gives=20the=202=20its=20power=20of=20information.
informing=20action=20but=20keep=20us=20at=202=20after=20the=20praxis=20takes=20place.=20being
at=203=20asks=20us=20to=20go=20to=204,=20but=20the=20poetry=20of=204=20is=20just=20some=20"other"=202=20-
you=20can=20see=20now=20that=20we=20are=20still=20at=202,=20but=20another's=202=20and=20their
personal=20logos=20that=20comes=20with=20it.=20it=20is=20a=20surplus=20value=20game=20like=20a
capitalist=20circuit=20where=20our=20own=20linguistic=20labor=20is=20divided=20and=20used
to=20support=20another's=20language.=20the=20power=20comes=20from=20the=20language=20of
the=202s,=20ultimately=20because=20it=20allows=20for=20the=20communication=20of=20a
potential=203.=20there=20is=20a=20conventional=20term=20used=20by=20people=20like=20putnam
called=20"semantic=20externalism"(see=20wiki)=20which=20makes=20this=20same=20point
but=20putnam=20doesn't=20get=20into=20the=201-2-3=20mystical=20shit=20complex.=20but=20that
shit=20complex=20isn't=20important=20really=20unless=20you=20have=20already=20been
anally=20"rebirthed"=20(and-i)=20and=20feel=20particularly=20attached=20to=20the=20logos
which=20you=20have=20come=20to=20associate=20yourself=20with.
there=20is=20a=20certain=20amount=20of=20dopey=20self-consciouness=20required=20to=20feel
this=20way=20about=20language=20and=20it=20is=20hard=20to=20maintain=20a=20(nor-i)=20attitude
towards=20external=20semantics=20especially=20when=20you=20have=20people=20like=20rorty
and=20derrida=20trying=20their=20hardest=20to=20deny=20the=20conscious=20connotative
truthiness=20of=20personal=20logos.=20in=20fact=20most=20of=20the=20post-modern=20project
is=20couched=20in=20the=20effort=20to=20go=20from=203=20to=204,=20and=20in=20most=20of=20the=20writing
that=20I=20have=20encountered=20in=20these=20philosophies=20completely=20deny=20the=202's
personal-logos.=20even=20chomsky=20(whose=20models=20of=20"communicative
distortion"=20comes=20from=20habermas)=20has=20a=20difficult=20time=20maintaining=20a
consistent=20presence=20at=202=20b/c=20so=20much=20of=20the=20language=20and=20vocabulary
for=20actual=20intelligent=20discussion=20exists=20only=20in=20the=203=20and=20to=20use=20such
language=20will=20deny=20the=202=20anyways.
(this=20is=20also=20why=20people=20like=20singer=20daniel=20jonston=20suffer=20from=20wrong
vocabulary)

the=20benifit=20of=20staying=20at=202=20does=20is=20not=20a=20personal=20benefit,=20but=20a
feedback=20community=20benefit=20like=20a=20easily=20readable=20jewish=20lifestyle.
when
two=202s=20dialog=20towards=20the=203=20the=20results=20can=20be=20compared=20to
one=202=20broadcasting=20at=20the=203s=20towards=20the=204...=20the=20need=20for
broadcasting=20techniques=20is=20very=20important=20for=20the=203s=20because=20dialog=20is
not=20so=20possible=20anymore.=20but=20I=20think=20it=20is=20also=20possible=20for=20the=202s=20to
be=20broadcasting=20too...=20towards=20the=202...=201...=200....

----
the=20pnematic=20android=20druid=20is
generating=20an=20infinite-god=20from=20his=20minimal=20prime=20identity:=202
(sequence=20A005384=20in=20OEIS)
how?
Sophie=20Germain=20primes(2,3,5...)=20have=20a=20practical=20application=20in=20the
generation=20of=20random=20numbers.=20The=20decimal=20expansion=20of=20reciprocal=201/q
will=20produce=20a=20stream=20of=20pseudo=20random=20numbers=20of=20length=20q=20-=201[....]
The=20result=20is=20a=20stream=20of=20length=20q-1=20digits=20(including=20leading=20zeros).
So,=20for=20example,=20using=20q=20==2023=20generates=20the=20random=20digits
0,4,3,4,7,8,2,6.....3,9,1,3
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