Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2006 17:57:36 -0400 From: NZ <pretzelworld-AT-gmail.com> To: deleuze-guattari-AT-lists.driftline.org Subject: Re: [D-G] a close words to Nz and Jussi I want to move forward now... ----- if this "wooden iron" is indeed supposed to illuminate upon benjamin's notion of pure-violence I think then there is something to be learned. so I can see this "wooden iron' as a joke made by one philosopher about another... not you or I, but it seems like schopenhauer was making fun of Hegel's metaphysics wherein such a fantasy of "wooden iron" could exist. Neitzsche summons a simmilar use of this word as a joke-response to notion of "free society", obviously Nietzsche (like Rousseau and his "contract" of compromize) cannot take such a concept seriously so why should we be looking to this poet for a philosophical answer? (and I must ask this question rhetorically b/c I am not very interested in what Neitzsche has to say about pure-violence.) But I do see the lesson here and that is the violence of ignorance. perhaps ignorance is not a pure-violence but it is certainly divine (it can strike at any moment). I had brought this up earlier in order to compare the absolute width of spinoza's divine-wisdom to a corrillary divine-igorance.... and to show how this leads to unfortunate solipistic attitudes. (re: sophic paradox vs sphinx) A pataphysics of ethics is a terrible and violent ethics. Like another poster had noted, the violence gets harnessed by sovereignty, it is not sovereignty itself. (RE: What is Philosophy?) and It takes a philosophy to harness the two pieces together, a philosophy of divine-ignorance (re: Mills). I will have to expore this retarded nature of modern philosophy a bit more as I can see that it is very difficult for even the most well read philosophy buffs to take it seriously.(re: loss of vocabulary) --- skinner's pigeon's clicking at the button, trying to follow the F ratio is easy, but the psychological effects of the V ratio are tremendous. It makes me think o f the poetry of the computer mouse, why a "mouse"? clicking like skinner's subjects, running through virtual mazes. it is so very literal and the loss of vocabulary prevents even a philosopher from having fun. _______________________________________________ List address: deleuze-guattari-AT-driftline.org Info: http://lists.driftline.org/listinfo.cgi/deleuze-guattari-driftline.org Archives: www.driftline.org
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