File deleuze-guattari/deleuze-guattari.0607, message 6


To: <deleuze-guattari-AT-lists.driftline.org>
Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2006 10:16:54 +0200
Subject: Re: [D-G] a close words to Nz and Jussi


Hello,

This  is the quote from Nietzsche.



Freie Gesellschaft? Ja! Ja! Aber ihr wi?t doch, ihr Herren, woraus man die
baut? Aus holzernem Eisen! Aus dem beruhmten holzernen Eisen! Und noch nicht
einmal aus holzernem...
[Friedrich Nietzsche: Werke und Briefe: Funftes Buch. Wir Furchtlosen, S.
37. Digitale Bibliothek Band 31: Nietzsche, S. 6201 (vgl. Nietzsche-W Bd. 2,
S. 225) (c) C. Hanser Verlag]

Te translation:
"Free society? Yes, yes. But you know, Misters, ofwhat is build of?.
Of wooden iron! The famous wooden iron. And not even from wooden .."

Nietzsche: "The joyious science" ? 356.

Dialetical mareialis is metaphysics too.

greetings

Dr. Harald Wenk

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Sent: Donnerstag, 6. Juli 2006 22:44
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Subject: Re: [D-G] a close words to Nz and Jussi


but.. nichol does not have to pass through the same onologocal mirror
that you have choosen to pass through and strickly speaking
"metaphysical"  can truely be metaphysical only if it meets such an
ontological definition. whether or not "wondering" about science must
be metaphysical is just not so... the wondering can also be physical,
materialistic... there are dialectical materialist descriptions of
these same metaphysical phenomena that is so troubling.
I am seeing a very narrow corridor, only getting smaller.

I will jump to the side and pass through my ontoloical mirror once
again and find myself in a larger space... ahh!

(so... yoga & spinoza & nietzche... & DyG...
over and over again in every paragraph perhaps!!)


----

I have finally come to some headway w/ "wooden iron"... it is not
nietzche, {why cant we just do away with that poet for once?}, it is
not nietzche but shopenhaur who said it in response to hegel's
ridiculous logic of history. but schopenheur does not go into
dialectical materialism, marx certainly does.
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