Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 12:26:22 -0400 To: deleuze-guattari-AT-lists.driftline.org Subject: Re: [D-G] Deleuze Also personal threatened by Lebanese > In my eyes identification is not settled, > changing email adresses make > wanted emails under the original address > more unlikely to be treated properly. > think about it, somehow without writing any of the actual words you are able to understand who I am, yet the lack of formal names still upsets you. seems like you are not satisfied by incorpeal knowlege /truth but additionally desire some territorialized dogma of form or identity. Do you like to territorialize with everything? I am interested in knowing what is this "treated properly" business about?? Am I going to be on you r "list?" ...perhaps the knowlege is not enough for you but it must also fit some program of reality that you envision, (what is it? it sounds exciting. I have friends in the military who are required to keep similar logs, do you have an agency that you must report this to?) > > So I feel a little bit personal attacked, also by psycholgical > identification with other train users - I'm sure cologne is a skeery place to live, but honestly, how would it feel to be in beruit or nyc? tel aviv is nice. of course it is a terrible feeling but millions of people deal with it rationally everyday. how do they do it, are they super intelligent masterminds who are fully conscious of their situation. I am sure most are similar to you or I. remember the cold war? so this crisis... it is an old game we are asked to play (we can even go back to the inquisition or alexander vs oriental despots.. if we must remember). As you say, I am sure spinoza is very much responsible, but the more direct relation must go to hobbes and his fears of the spanish armana re: leviathon. hobbes set the christian/apocolytic tone very intentionally by defining exacty what is the improvement of control between kings and republics... kings cannot engineer social structures the way constitutional republics can. it is a tremendous difference of despotic power if compared to the barbaric asiatic despots, just in terms of strategy these despots have much less power then a republican. so the crisis instigates this strategy-game of engineering and it is an old game of crisis. ultimately the crisis asks us to act out of fear instead of rationality.. and from within nash's game then consciousness becomes limited to the tempo of game play... like the chronos which scans the aieon. hwenk, do you realize that you are giving me the exact same line that the cia gives me everyday in the news programs? look at the strange heading you have choosen for this thread... sounds like a fox news program, "rampant paranoia" "fear" "fear" "anti-christ" "apocolypse"... how utterly boring... is this the agenda-line you want to push on us who read this list? If it isn't then you should figure out a way to talk about these very real issues w/o submitting to some unfortunate psy-op game play, as an intellectual you must go beyond the counter intelligence that surrounds us. I don't mean random lines of flight (a la derrida or zizak's obnoixious virtuals) but pointed-circles that direct communication towards consciousness. there is no other way. > Even if you see things that you have "To take side on the other side of > power.." > i dunno if you read the foucault list, I do, and I must say it is very silent right now. there is no discussion.. period. I am very much interested in his last book on sexuality... the care of the self... i really get a lot from that. but foucault's story ends so badly with telquel and those bastards who decided to continue from his line (re: potential 3) but going the way of capitalism in the 80s with fashion magazines and tabloid news, the information was vital and so it was used very unethically. > > Rievere had nothing better to do than comitting the next crime > as soon as he was set free. > Foucault said: "What did you expect from a habitual criminal?". > [...] > But what should Foucault said instead? > i dont know. seems like he said enough, why weren't other intellectuals engaged by this responsibly? Maybe they were lost persuing some stupid virtual paradoxes that intellectuals like to busy themselves with. If we are looking at one man for a formula we are already filled with mistaken ideas. > I have an introduction to Deleuze, > where the author compares Deleuze's writings with computer languages. > There Deleuze plays the role of a higher language like C, Pascal or Fortran > - refering short to known standard interpretations automatical compiled to > assembler, the machine language. this is interesting how you have described an intellectual's brain like a computer machine. I don't know what to make of this yet and I will consider the brain as bWo or the brain as machine or as assembleges... i dunno, its weierd. _______________________________________________ List address: deleuze-guattari-AT-driftline.org Info: http://lists.driftline.org/listinfo.cgi/deleuze-guattari-driftline.org Archives: www.driftline.org
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