File deleuze-guattari/deleuze-guattari.0608, message 35

Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 00:15:41 -0700
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Subject: Re: [D-G] Carnival and Violence

hello, my feeling is that it would be worth starting from the specificity of the violent acts-what kinds of crime are committed and against whom most often? if they are murders what kind of murders? i was intrigued by the cutting up case-almost like scattering the limbs of Dionysius and then parcaeling them up again. The war machine is a useful frame of analysis as is the rhizome-if one kills it off in one articulation it will replant itself elsewhere. it is thus not necessary to establish a relational content specific link between capitalism and the specificity of the crimes-this would return it to an arborescent schema but it could be possible to map the crimes geopolitically, that is emerging in an intersection of forces
hope that helps

Sloughing one's skin.-The snake that cannot slough its skin perishes. Likewise spirits which are prevented from changing their opinions; they cease to be spirits (Nietzsche: Daybreak:V:573)   

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From: Dylan Kerrigan <>
Subject: [D-G] Carnival and Violence
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 17:16:06 -0400

Recently i have been studying Carnival in Trinidad and Tobago - its 
history since the late 1700s through the 19th century and emancipation 
when the streets became more violent into the 20th century where after a 
long creative period of design inspired by the birth of a new nation the 
profit motive swept in and transformed the festival into a highly 
sexualised and charged performance where the older ways have been 
forgotten and MTV is the preferred image to reproduce.

At the same time i was forced to note the excessive levels and crime 
experienced daily on such a small island. With a population of 
1.3million they have already had over 250 murders for the year so far. 
Guns are prevalent and some of the violence itself has borders on the 
performative - recently a body was found chop into various parts and 
buried in buckets.

How would Delueze and Guattari bring Carnival and Violence into 
conversation. Could they? What would their machines, there productive 
metaphors say about it. Perhaps that Carnival on the surface presents 
joviality and jouissance, but also hides the production of more violent 
undercurrents which at other times bubble to the surface and actually 
result in physical harm.

its just a thought im struggling with because i would like to pursue and 
research the conversation they have with each other, and i'd like to do 
it using a deleuzian attitude.

I lean toward thoughts of an intersection between capitalism and 
carnival  - i think to pursue once again and no doubt not for the last 
time Capitalism and Schizophrenia. Do others think this foolish. Im 
sorry if anyone feels this email is off point. That was not my 
intention. I would be interested to hear anyones thoughts on this or on 
Deleuze and Violence, Deleuze and Carnival more generally.


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