To: <deleuze-guattari-AT-lists.driftline.org> Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 13:03:31 +0200 Subject: Re: [D-G] Deleuze Hello Mr .+oot9PM golfer [dr.crawboney-AT-gmail.com] Even it you think it is my personal convention, but also in order if it look at old emails it would be pleasant, or necessary to know who all the ?s new or all people coming with this addresses like this: .+oot9PM golfer [dr.crawboney-AT-gmail.com]. Otherwise people who are asked did not answer and it looks instead there are always new ones who not say on which stand they are. So, in order to know this, some words to this are necessary. # And if you want to try to life a happy and comfortable live without language and conventions in regard that there are about 6 Billions on this earth not always Buddha or some else very perfect like, maybe sometimes even hostile to on e another, I do not see any real chance. And if you say you don't like to live a happy and comfortable life, this makes you suspicious - I, and the people I know, do. greetings Harald Wenk -----Original Message----- From: deleuze-guattari-bounces-AT-lists.driftline.org [mailto:deleuze-guattari-bounces-AT-lists.driftline.org]On Behalf Of .+oot9PM golfer Sent: Freitag, 4. August 2006 00:03 To: deleuze-guattari-AT-lists.driftline.org Subject: Re: [D-G] Deleuze this talk of convention sounds ironical/rhetorical... for to be actually sympathetic to convention means to recognize that convention would ask us to examine the nationalist policy when looking at this nationalist war. What religion? Do dogs believe in god? (Maybe you should drop this persistent plea for convention, it sounds insincere and I highly doubt anyone but you is aware of your personalized conventions.) The fact is that Israel does not have a good economy w/o backing from the US (2004,10m/day) and I dont really think the US would ever contribute similar amounts to all the other mid-east economies for the sake of harmony, so I wouldnt trumpet Isreal as a model-economy. But there has been a ton of money dumped into this region and I guarantee that anyone who has seriously studied this region's history will tell you that harmony is antithetical to the US's expensive agenda of turmoil. Any philosophical attempt at ethics must recognize the facts instead of finding philosophical tangents that take us leagues away from developing an ethical consciousness. In the US, many like to talk about the connection between Lebanon's leaders and those 2 "guerilla freedom-fighters" whom Isreal is targeting their missiles. But look who is leading Israel today, also a military dogs. Its dogs against dogs and dog fighting is usually illegal. If we cannot put them back in their kennel perhaps we can take away their toys. Do US citizens have any power here? Perhaps there are some who refuse taxation and who can begin to say no to this "social contract for turmoil." We do indeed have harmony here in a Ohio shopping mall, but then social-hydraulics indicates that localized harmony comes at an absolute cost. In my opinion the DyG cure comes from elevation of consciousness, specifically class consciousness which is about understanding what is "dominant ideology" or some call it "convention" whatever the word. I believe that DyG help those intellectuals who are susceptible to over-thinking their historical position and they use the specialized vocabulary to spell it out for them. What suffers us is most often is the conflict between consciousness and the ignorance which sculpts our neurobiology according to the dominant ideology. here today we have a very dramatic reminder of how obscene we have allowed ourselves to become. Now we can help ourselves inside more then we can help the Lebanese and that is okay. But tomorrow it is already over and we can only live with those chains we have traced/forged for ourselves. I must be leaving Cyprus tonight so I can go meet with some depressed goldfish sitting in their tanks at the Mexico-Texas border, they are concerned that perhaps the US will attempt a similar maneuver and attack mexico very soon. I must force myself to remind thse paranoid goldfish that " even though Texans cannot breath underwater they are also enlightened creatures and they are far too thoughtful to do such a horrible thing." hmmm... maybe i'll pack an extra ketamin dosage in case I run into a wild rhino at the airport... _______________________________________________ List address: deleuze-guattari-AT-driftline.org Info: http://lists.driftline.org/listinfo.cgi/deleuze-guattari-driftline.org Archives: www.driftline.org _______________________________________________ List address: deleuze-guattari-AT-driftline.org Info: http://lists.driftline.org/listinfo.cgi/deleuze-guattari-driftline.org Archives: www.driftline.org
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