Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 13:14:32 -0400 To: deleuze-guattari-AT-driftline.org Subject: [D-G] Jeepers, more Violence > > to give the bible to > > philological critics, as Spinoza had done by largely accepted historical > > opinion, > > is to destroy the believe in holy books in the middle in long run. > ...that would be "one" way to look at it, but one can also see this biblical pot-latch as a contrived means of binding science to the rock of faith, just like Newton's gravity, which is born from apocrophal inspriation (Re: parental narratives vs reason). In such a case we do not escape these narratives. This is typical of N's transvaluation of knowledge where the flipping between forward and backwards flows can create impossible eddies of ethical delusion for the person who is foolish enough to wade through the mire. As philologist he works against philosophy. Even Deleuze's work on Spinoza maintains a strong Nietzschian slant, precisely to show the reader how vulnerable Spinoza is to his dangerous philology. If we wonder where subversion comes from, we see it in un-intended interpretation. This opens up a vast realm of ignorance, something which locke wishes to fill, but it is N with his false language of "types." > > > > So not settling the question of parapsyhology has become part of the > > shiboleth regarding holy books and foreign cultures itself. > > That is even political very intersting, as the struggle on ideas > > is thrown back totally to the religious sphere - with christianism on the > > western side. > > But this has not been the case for science in the start at the times of > > Spinoza. > there is a faint line to trace between spinoza and trinidad, but a common point of intersection would be granada, 1492, no? Furthermore, I think looking at concepts of property/territory in those days would reveal much of that faint tracing which has been covered over by that transvaluation process which is psychically imprinted on modern western notion of territory... and territory still manages to be "the" topic of the day even if it hides behind religion. So what I was talking about before was the territory of languages, and now I have brought up Spinoza, and I must say that linking "identity to reason", as Spinoza has done, has had a profound impact on the rapid extinction of languages among the "un-reasonable". Am I clarifying this idea of "ethics of ignorance" at all for you? Can you see how the deligation of "what is reasonable" merely maintains the same power structures for the masters' own shibboleth, but at once it expedites their control of the slaves in terms of their social identity (Re: lockes' tabla rasa). To me it acts as divine-violence, or like one that is like divine but stems from the creation of a mega-machine which treats civilians as parts of that machine. The slaves remain ignorant because of a particular shibboleth(as you say) they cannot percieve the legal contracts imposed upon them, unless, of course they convert (Re:going from 2-to-3) which is a negatio of spinoza's imaginary reason and a return to simple oedipal narratives. So I really dont see the point of this line other then its rhetorical value, but again, the rhetoric is lost inside the broadcast system of the mega-machine. > > Western scientific community makes culturasl studies, trying to be something > > like neutral. > > But there is nor real scientific explanation on the ground of the neutrality > > but implicitly refusing for example parapsycholgy > > and making normal neurology out of mysticism. At least the last point is > > strongly tried. I don't get where you are going with parapsychology, but I suppose any un-named flow, whether its real or not or merely illegal, becomes flattened by the philology of a shibboleth. Once they are flattened then it is extremely difficult to untangle truely illegal flows from those generations of imaginary virtuals that work to compound ignorance. So it allows aristotle to imagine an "equatorial slovenliness" or for us some strangeness like "the equatorial love for children." But this is an imaginary territory and any effort to de-territorialize it is a detentional ambition because it does nothing to address the actual territorialized plane which I only see as relating to identity and property, and this makes perfect sense for me so I can't understand why this line wouldn't be followed. _______________________________________________ List address: deleuze-guattari-AT-driftline.org Info: http://lists.driftline.org/listinfo.cgi/deleuze-guattari-driftline.org Archives: www.driftline.org
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