Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 16:51:50 -0400 To: deleuze-guattari-AT-lists.driftline.org Subject: Re: [D-G] Jeepers, more Violence I have followed this same conversation with hwenk for nearly a year and neither one of us has budged. yes, spinoza vs blyenbergh is the doorway, so to speak, but there is a door-stopper silently sitting on the floor and all the pushing and pulling is for naught. We can all plainly see it, yet it does not move, and the door does not open. I have thought psychically, with telekinesis, that I could move the door-stopper but moving text with my mind is like moving rocks (re: animating nomos). Personally, I can agree with every precept which Deleuze encounters inside Spinoza, yet I still disagree with his conclusions (at least as hwenk has articulated them) and I read closer still and I begin to agree with why hwenk would articulate them as such... its confusing and it certainly makes sense to read Deleuze very literally w/o any interpretation. I am reluctance to join in with the dogma and although I am not keen on pointing out Deleuze's logical errors, I cant help but see a major disconnect here, so I am reserving myself, hoping to find a more penetrating reading for this unfortunate dialog. isn't it interesting how this little slip-up hinges upon a sexualized moment of truth for deleuze? Isn't it interesting that this problem of ethical judgement specifically allows for that same consciousness that judges nero at the same level which adultery is judged. I mean the roman theology which surrounds is specifically about the creation of a population born from that sabine moment. "Us" - as romans - have a consciousness that is limited by this Sabine ethics, right here. _______________________________________________ List address: deleuze-guattari-AT-driftline.org Info: http://lists.driftline.org/listinfo.cgi/deleuze-guattari-driftline.org Archives: www.driftline.org
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