To: <deleuze-guattari-AT-lists.driftline.org>
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 14:57:45 +0100
Subject: Re: [D-G] Yoga psychology is a very fine analysis of brainneurology


Hello,



Does anybody knows some book of vergillio related to the situationists deivé 
?



Warmly



bruno


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From: "james" <spatium-AT-gmail.com>
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Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 12:03 AM
Subject: Re: [D-G] Yoga psychology is a very fine analysis of brainneurology 
from within in accordance with the molecular viewof Deleuze and Guattari


> Harald,
>
> What do you make of D&G's mentions of the "Tantric egg"?
>
> james
>
> On 2/12/07, hwenk <hwenk-AT-web.de> wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> I find it worthwhile to mention, that the psychology of yoga, as laid 
>> down
>> in Patanjalis yoga sutras and texts on kundalini yoga, are a very fine
>> description of
>> states of conciousness, the interaction with the sub- and unconciousness,
>> the building
>> if circular mental patterns (vrittis), which may be relateded to traumata 
>> or
>> thoughts coming
>> by themselves, analysis of dream states and also the fancy (delirs), 
>> wrong
>> knowledge (including hallucinations).
>>
>> What is also striking is the theory of the mantal frame, the change of
>> the essence of the mind, like the growing from child to adult.
>> This is done by the theory of chittas, which are a chain of
>> "I" concsciousness. There are  severeal layers or strates of 
>> conciousness,
>> including on for self esteemm and on for logical thinking (manas).
>> There is also an phase transition if the neocortex take sover more 
>> activity
>> by
>> dominaring things through elctrical activity and not so much
>> neurotransmitters (buddhis).
>>
>> This has to do with subjectivation through deep crisis, and the 
>> subjective
>> processes accompanied with it,
>> what is laid down only in these texts. Other texts concerning advanced
>> processes of subjectivation out of
>> more mystical traditions have no such obvious connections
>> to our western well estalished, materialistic neurobiology.
>>
>> It is easy to explain in a sociological framework, why these knowledge
>> became esoteric and marginalized and is mostly
>> still bound
>> to religious discourses. It simply hinders it wide spreading, letting 
>> such
>> the social system or the strates intact.
>> The tantric Buddhist, having institutionalize sthese knowledge and 
>> practces
>> werew
>> also swept out of India
>> by the orthodox brahmins in an counterreformation against Luther and
>> protestantism remindimg manner.
>> In spreading to more far east, the tantric tadition, which si some older
>> name of form of yoga,
>> was not overtaken so fully and mostly neglected, eeven in monastaries.
>>
>> I am a little bit puzzled, that there seem to be no interst in these
>> coincidations with yoga psychology,
>> not by the neurologists and also Guattari (Deleuze was for sure bo
>> neurologist) and othe ranti psychatrists.
>> For short, not even by critical scientists. This is more than puzzling,
>> as the search for an alternative to neuroleptica was one of
>> the starting points of the movement of Antipsychatry.
>> This search itself brought psychanalysis
>> and psychtherapeuthic cures into critique,
>> because the treatment of psychosis was obviously with to
>> little success in real healing.
>> Psychosis was the starting point of Lacan, who
>> inaugurated the work of Guattari who adopted this and lead to the
>> collaboration
>> with Deleuze.
>> As you all know, psychosis became the starting point of the whole Deleuze
>> Guattari theory of mind.
>>
>> At last, the in India calle dkundalini is also present in the first pages
>> of the Ant-Oedipe - it is nothing else than the divine "numen".
>> But there is also no reference - not to kundalini, not to chinese chi, 
>> not
>> to something else in this direction.
>>
>> For what is yoga - "an ensemble of practices".
>> Of course you can make an intelligent election ever day.
>> There is also progress by abstraction.
>>
>> greetings Harald Wenk
>>
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