File deleuze-guattari/deleuze-guattari.0706, message 8


To: <deleuze-guattari-AT-lists.driftline.org>
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 14:24:41 +0200
Subject: Re: [D-G] its


Dear Dr. Cb,

After strieving throzgh he Wikipedia artiucle
on BWO; Guattari and shizoanaylsis I have come
to the concliusion, that in
your language a full neurolgical BWO
is meant by me, wgere neurotransmitters are the
material base of a free creative
psychi matter wit a "pathic", very intensive mood.
Indee the late work of Guattari "Chaosmose"
is verery helpful in thsi respect.
There the processes of  new
relations to theobject,
very precair, very great,
very unpersonasl and objective, very intensive,
always in danger to get a little paranioid,
building up new structures and
affording tremendous efforts.

Also, indeed some
people show very unexpected aggrssive
behaviour aganst oneself.
That uis very coiruois,
In more classical terms Reich described this
as a danger by
the full life,
threating the rigid
characterstructure based on repression.

I myself  got the impression,
that sometimes some kind of inner despot
in some people suddenly wakes up.


The old "nihil in intellectuus nisi in sensu",
there is nothing in the intellect (generalized to psyche)
with had not been forme in the sense,
does not fit for selfperception of the brain.
Also the power of perception and action and stabilization
is enhanced.

But, to work on intentions,
cahosmose is reall yhelpful
and indeed something like modelastion
orsubjectivation takes sometimnsplace in a very intebse manner.
It is very healthy for me,
that I can keep the chaos very samll - in spite
of having been "pathic".

greetings Harald Wenk


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you can read Artaud's description of the BWO in his intro to Theater
and its Double and there is a very clear description of this subject.
The BWO grows in our minds like a Gort, and we cannot help it.
Spinoza asks why we eat the fruit and builds his moral relativism from
that, but he is mistaken to think of this as a relative choice,
aquasition of knowlege occurs without intention all the time as
neurogenesis. This is the impression of external bodies on our own
neurology forming the BWO, a social body.  Impressions vs Expressions
of these social bodies are the critical circuit and they happen
simultaneously.
I do not see BWO as a means to freedom of thought, it is a means to
consciousness of our social bodies. If we choose to be self-reflective
then we also cannot help but choose to be part of this social body
that is inward looking, self-satisfying, and ignorant of our
participation in a true social body that is alive and kicking whether
we know it or not. It becomes that alienation which schizophrenia is
the cure. And so competing populations grow like that and even mating
becomes less diverse as these divisions grow, eventually leading to
colony collapse. That is the strategy.
-cb
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