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To: <deleuze-guattari-AT-lists.driftline.org>
Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 15:44:18 +0100
Subject: Re: [D-G] paul bains


Hello Adline,

I am very pleased to get some "sign" of the sort of index
of existence from you - provided it is not from the "virtual" of
some masked, one or two times, other guy or woman.


I  am reading the "users guide" of Massumi and am very pleaesed.
All in all it emphasises the "chemical" background of
good old substabce metaphysics, with alot of substances -. nozthing else
tahn our chemical and mechanical produced materials.
This si in a way some sort of "stratic" friction.
You must know zhatt noramlly in matheamticas and in mathematical physics
things are
brought to the variation of one or at most tweo quantities
like energy and entropy, as fast as possible.
Ther has been also some kind of mistrust among physicians, seeing only
algebriuc compations
of some more or loss arbitrary functions insread some
real physics or chemistry.
In Biolog<y a noraml student hardly gets to know what aplat or an aniulmal
is,
he gets very< quick bichenical genetic codes.
Here Massumi brinfgs some trust back to expereivce of wood for example,
wood as "substance" is some real expereince
 difference which does not vaniosh if you make an
mathematicl or mathematical-physical-chemical analysis
of energy bounds and material constanst and the merging process.
That is some sort of bringing back "philophia perennis" on the greound
of correctness
of also everday experince and the logical derivatikons from it.
In my eyes ist asis also very scintific, as sicience is also bound
to make everday experinece deeper and more understandable,
using calculations and other abstract "models", bit not on order to
get lost in a very atrtifical wordlld of symbolic thinking with
very unobvious connectiosn to everyday experience.
Thsi also aplies to the"neurological" handlinmg of
psyhic matterh ans subjectivation by Deleuze and Guattari.

The chemical discussion is strongly related to Progorine and Isaberlle
Stengers,  coming from
far from equilibrium thermodynomics , entropy,
Leibnir and Lucrez (Stengers from 1997). It is very fruitful and I like it
very much.
I read the nobel prize lecture of Progorine in the Internet.
He is from Belgium, from your country.

As you may know, there is another author,
Edgar Morin, who plays agrat role in a coherent scientific
world view, he is very often used in systenm theory exponents.

It is almost incredible, what can be done with these two "notions", entropy
and energy
and the mathematics, from toplogy to differential geometry, dynamical
systems ...

Some peole in humanities seem not to have grasped what
an explosion of creativity, freedom intellectual advancements
technology, including matheamtics and physics has brought about.
This has been strongly emphasized by Whitehead.

In former times, soemthing like the danger
of some difficukties with the climate could not even be
posed on any empirical grounds.

You certainly know, that the ecological debate and
thimking is ver advanced here in germany.
In Germay, Guattari had been in the "Bundestag", our parliament,  with
probality 1,
means very sure.
An intellectual giant like him had been also very probable come into
governemnrt for the green party here.
You know that the "May 68" Cohn-Bendit actually is in the European
Parliament
for the geraman green party.

So, I hope you feel fine,

greetings to Bruexells
and perhaps Iwe got an emaol with Bisixfours,
making signs reliable.


greetings Harald Wenk
 .......


-----Original Message-----
From: deleuze-guattari-bounces-AT-lists.driftline.org
[mailto:deleuze-guattari-bounces-AT-lists.driftline.org]On Behalf Of Mas
Que Palabras
Sent: Freitag, 23. November 2007 06:42
To: deleuze-guattari-AT-lists.driftline.org
Subject: Re: [D-G] paul bains


has the book by queer theorist Francois Cusset "French Theory" been at
all translated?  how has it been recieved in your country? do you know
that both mAssumi and stIevale cHarles appear within it. otherwise
groundbreak discussed bruno latour and isabelle stengers engage
themselve in a debate on rationality in scientific environment. to
answer positively to this enlightening revival wind on the list i
propose to discuss the accuracy with which alliance can be here
constructed with contemporaneous thinkers of french theory.adline

2007/11/19, doug henry <henrybrs-AT-ix.netcom.com>:
> he's writing books
>
>
http://www.amazon.ca/Primacy-Semiosis-Ontology-Relations/dp/0802090036/ref=s
r_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1195500796&sr=1-2
>
> -----Original Message-----
> >From: Steve Arnott <sarnott99-AT-hotmail.com>
> >Sent: Nov 15, 2007 3:05 AM
> >To: deleuze-guattari-AT-lists.driftline.org
> >Subject: Re: [D-G] paul bains
> >
> >What's Paul doing  these days? He's a great guy!
> >
> >
> >> From: bobbyjaygeorge-AT-mac.com> To: deleuze-guattari-AT-lists.driftline.org>
> Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 17:49:27 -0600> Subject: [D-G] paul bains> > does
> anyone happen to have the email address of Paul Bains - could you > please
> send to me.> > thanks> _______________________________________________>
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