File deleuze-guattari/deleuze-guattari.0712, message 3


Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 02:41:09 +0100
To: deleuze-guattari-AT-lists.driftline.org
Subject: Re: [D-G] paul bains


hi.just read back your mail and understood everything in it.

i am interested by "wood" as substance. i wish to develop this idea,
along with extra spinozist caution and prolongation on this list. to
build a phylum that wanders between science, philosophy., and the
novel or the making of a video.the same relations constituing everyday
experiences reexplored.we could build a laboratory on this very
list.other plenty of concept may help, like the distinction between
haecceity and singularity ( mentioned first by emmanuel videcocq on
this list in early 2001). i am writing from a mobile, will come back
later.

i guess this is not interdisciplinarity module it is rather spinozist
exploration of the chaoids and physics of dynamics.of the sensation as
body of science etc aller retour.vice versa. see ya
adline.

2007/12/5, hwenk <hwenk-AT-web.de>:
> Hello Adline,
>
> I am very pleased to get some "sign" of the sort of index
> of existence from you - provided it is not from the "virtual" of
> some masked, one or two times, other guy or woman.
>
>
> I  am reading the "users guide" of Massumi and am very pleaesed.
> All in all it emphasises the "chemical" background of
> good old substabce metaphysics, with alot of substances -. nozthing else
> tahn our chemical and mechanical produced materials.
> This si in a way some sort of "stratic" friction.
> You must know zhatt noramlly in matheamticas and in mathematical physics
> things are
> brought to the variation of one or at most tweo quantities
> like energy and entropy, as fast as possible.
> Ther has been also some kind of mistrust among physicians, seeing only
> algebriuc compations
> of some more or loss arbitrary functions insread some
> real physics or chemistry.
> In Biolog<y a noraml student hardly gets to know what aplat or an aniulmal
> is,
> he gets very< quick bichenical genetic codes.
> Here Massumi brinfgs some trust back to expereivce of wood for example,
> wood as "substance" is some real expereince
>  difference which does not vaniosh if you make an
> mathematicl or mathematical-physical-chemical analysis
> of energy bounds and material constanst and the merging process.
> That is some sort of bringing back "philophia perennis" on the greound
> of correctness
> of also everday experince and the logical derivatikons from it.
> In my eyes ist asis also very scintific, as sicience is also bound
> to make everday experinece deeper and more understandable,
> using calculations and other abstract "models", bit not on order to
> get lost in a very atrtifical wordlld of symbolic thinking with
> very unobvious connectiosn to everyday experience.
> Thsi also aplies to the"neurological" handlinmg of
> psyhic matterh ans subjectivation by Deleuze and Guattari.
>
> The chemical discussion is strongly related to Progorine and Isaberlle
> Stengers,  coming from
> far from equilibrium thermodynomics , entropy,
> Leibnir and Lucrez (Stengers from 1997). It is very fruitful and I like it
> very much.
> I read the nobel prize lecture of Progorine in the Internet.
> He is from Belgium, from your country.
>
> As you may know, there is another author,
> Edgar Morin, who plays agrat role in a coherent scientific
> world view, he is very often used in systenm theory exponents.
>
> It is almost incredible, what can be done with these two "notions", entropy
> and energy
> and the mathematics, from toplogy to differential geometry, dynamical
> systems ...
>
> Some peole in humanities seem not to have grasped what
> an explosion of creativity, freedom intellectual advancements
> technology, including matheamtics and physics has brought about.
> This has been strongly emphasized by Whitehead.
>
> In former times, soemthing like the danger
> of some difficukties with the climate could not even be
> posed on any empirical grounds.
>
> You certainly know, that the ecological debate and
> thimking is ver advanced here in germany.
> In Germay, Guattari had been in the "Bundestag", our parliament,  with
> probality 1,
> means very sure.
> An intellectual giant like him had been also very probable come into
> governemnrt for the green party here.
> You know that the "May 68" Cohn-Bendit actually is in the European
> Parliament
> for the geraman green party.
>
> So, I hope you feel fine,
>
> greetings to Bruexells
> and perhaps Iwe got an emaol with Bisixfours,
> making signs reliable.
>
>
> greetings Harald Wenk
>  .......
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: deleuze-guattari-bounces-AT-lists.driftline.org
> [mailto:deleuze-guattari-bounces-AT-lists.driftline.org]On Behalf Of Mas
> Que Palabras
> Sent: Freitag, 23. November 2007 06:42
> To: deleuze-guattari-AT-lists.driftline.org
> Subject: Re: [D-G] paul bains
>
>
> has the book by queer theorist Francois Cusset "French Theory" been at
> all translated?  how has it been recieved in your country? do you know
> that both mAssumi and stIevale cHarles appear within it. otherwise
> groundbreak discussed bruno latour and isabelle stengers engage
> themselve in a debate on rationality in scientific environment. to
> answer positively to this enlightening revival wind on the list i
> propose to discuss the accuracy with which alliance can be here
> constructed with contemporaneous thinkers of french theory.adline
>
> 2007/11/19, doug henry <henrybrs-AT-ix.netcom.com>:
> > he's writing books
> >
> >
> http://www.amazon.ca/Primacy-Semiosis-Ontology-Relations/dp/0802090036/ref=s
> r_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1195500796&sr=1-2
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > >From: Steve Arnott <sarnott99-AT-hotmail.com>
> > >Sent: Nov 15, 2007 3:05 AM
> > >To: deleuze-guattari-AT-lists.driftline.org
> > >Subject: Re: [D-G] paul bains
> > >
> > >What's Paul doing  these days? He's a great guy!
> > >
> > >
> > >> From: bobbyjaygeorge-AT-mac.com> To: deleuze-guattari-AT-lists.driftline.org>
> > Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 17:49:27 -0600> Subject: [D-G] paul bains> > does
> > anyone happen to have the email address of Paul Bains - could you > please
> > send to me.> > thanks> _______________________________________________>
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