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From: "hwenk" <hwenk-AT-web.de>
To: <deleuze-guattari-AT-lists.driftline.org>
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 11:34:04 +0100
Subject: Re: [D-G] 1949 Diss. on Spinoza and Vedanta


Dear Mr. Paul Bains,

I don't wish to critize our valuable Mrs. Stengers, on the contrary,
I desired to blame politics and econmics to be in state that a prominent 
natural scholar like Professor Stengers ist forced by the incredible bad 
politics to the disavantage to almost all people to leave her beloved 
reseaches on chemistry, mathematics, phyiscs, especially non-equilibrium 
thermodynamics.

For a translater of Guattari you comments on
his standard in neurology solution of the brain as the
nid of the psyche are almost hateful.
Are you really that "Paul Bains"?

D&G, especially Deleuze,  overtook "esse is percipii" from Berkely and high 
valuated Whitehead, whose prehension, just the same, goes back to Hume's 
contraction, which in turn  is used very central in "What is philosophy" by 
D&G. The last seemed to have found
some mercy in your eyes, looking at your last emails.
Indeed there is sense perception and you have to think a little or doing 
yoga, to percept more than usual what is going on in the body including the 
brain.

I like to inform you, as you seem  to be not very aquainted with the
esoteric, european or non-european tradition, that the psyche is
bound to the electrical field there among others.
Therefore EEGs of the brain have some scientific and medical use.
Some "Magical" for "Magicians" too (occuring in 1000 Plateaus "Becoming 
animal...").
But, how does Spinoza expressed it: "We don't want to give more nourishing 
to superstition".

The stratas are temiogened by tomographies and by liasons of the brain it is 
sure, that abilities of the psyche are bound, at least with important parts, 
to parts of the brain.
Indeed eben neuro mathematics works with the stratic Linsker-model,
among others, of course. A bit difficult, even foer very advanced 
matheamtics, as themordynamics, made for heat diffusion, has no strata in 
general.
But thermodymnic is the most advanced theory to handle such a high numeber 
of   relativ independent particels. Nerve impules in
the magnitude of trillions are only to compare with gaz theory.

Mathematically, in a strata the nerve impuleses are not independent, the
"traffic" with neurons belonging to the strata has much more intensity and 
probalibity (grasping the "virtual") than between the stratas.
Here more "compact", as in the definition in 1000 Plateaus "Geology of 
morals", may mean more intensity or probability of firing in a neuron 
strata - even virtual. in an approbiat probality measur space for example. 
Modelled out or in accordance with empirical data.

In the pure Aristotelian tradition, the material heart is the sit of the 
psyche.
Excuse me, but with the present data from brain research and neurology: if 
there is an anatomical sit,
the choice of the brain is unavoidable as main nid.

The electric field - psyche  correspondence is the background for
the fierce struggle on the "aether" as medium for the light propagation - 
electromagnetic waves.
Even the best mathamticans and physicists like to speculate in the 19. 
century about the world soul - aether - electromsagnetism, solving the 
body-psyche problem.
They knew about Volta's frog tadpoles moved by electrical currents.

But a field is there even without or very little waves - the
 "victorious" intuition of Einstein, Faraday and Maxwell.

You know that Thomas Pynchon still fights the case of an aether with
the weapons of a literat.


greetings Dr. rer, Nat. Harald Wenk

PS:
I am no friend o the"Zeit" critics on "Fractals, Chaos and Solitons", on the 
contrary.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Paul adrian Bains" <pbains-AT-xtra.co.nz>
To: <deleuze-guattari-AT-lists.driftline.org>
Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 7:53 PM
Subject: Re: [D-G] 1949 Diss. on Spinoza and Vedanta


> Hi Harald,
> I did translate Chaosmosis (with Julian Pefanis) but we did not write a 
> foreword! Maybe there is a foreword to the Indiana Press co-publication - 
> altho I don't think so?
>
> The Palindrome essay by Mario Crocco, is in English - so you don't need 
> Spanish.
>
>>As the subject evolves in the brain as in the mouth the teeth,
>
> 'subjects' are most unlikely to 'evolve' in brains. Subjects (or rather 
> psyches) certainly use brains and there is little chance of a psyche being 
> 'in' a brain. To say (like d/g) that 'the mind is the brain' is jut silly 
> provocation. Hardly an insightful 'conclusion' from 2 v. interesting 
> thinkers.....
>
> Ruyer had one great intuition - absolute survey. The idea that there is no 
> distance btwn the observer and that of which she is aware. Consciousness 
> is not a geometrical space and the observer does not gaze at the field of 
> awareness - it is a kind of autovision without gaze. A bit like 
> Whitehead's presentational immediacy.
>
> Isabelle Stengers was not forced to switch 'from science to politics.' She 
> chooses to write about many things... She recently published a lenthy book 
> on A.N.Whitehead, Penser avec Whitehead. The most recent bk is Au temps 
> des catastrophes: Resister a la barbarie qui vient (with Philippe 
> Pignarre). There was also recently La Vierge et le Neutrino.
>
> Ruyer learnt most of his biology as prisoner during the 2nd world war.
>
> Hasta la proxima,
> paul.
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: hwenk <hwenk-AT-web.de>
> To: deleuze-guattari-AT-lists.driftline.org
> Sent: Tuesday, 13 January, 2009 4:46:01 AM
> Subject: Re: [D-G] 1949 Diss. on Spinoza and Vedanta
>
> Dear Mr. Bains,
>
> There seems to be a whole discussion on biosemiotics/biolinguistics.
>
> You know that subjectvation has become the theme of the late
> Guattri, in his book "chasmose" this is strongly emphasized.
> You or another Paul Bains has written a forweord or an
> essay in the english translation in 1995, absent in my french original
> from 1992.
>
>
> As the subject evolves in the brain as in the mouth the teeth,
> somthing like heredity of esential or charcter by the DNA
> is in Deleuze and Guattris subjectivationas ontological memory.
> Here Ruyer is a specialist.
> The subject is a strata in the brain.
>
>
> Indeed, the dissolution of the drop of water in the ocean,
> the personal atman in the unversal soul, is a constant struggle in 
> Vedanta,
> as the water stays the same - dissolution the I or not?
> Of course you are aquanited with thr fierce polemics between Vedantins,
> getting an I feeling as guarantee of identity as such
> and the buddhist, negating a real I.
>
> Mrs. Stengers has been forced to switch from natural science
> to politics and economics, that is a bad "sign" concerning our times.
> I hope this will not revive the old pre- or and first signifikant 
> semiotics
> of despots ansd scapegoats.
>
> greetings Harald Wenk
> I am not able to read spanish, but the thme looks very interesting.
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