Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 21:19:56 -0500 From: Andrew Young <beartown-AT-bear-town.com> To: puptcrit-driftline.org-AT-lists.driftline.org Subject: Re: [Puptcrit] UNIONS - Puppeteers How does the old saying go? It's worst system in the world...except for all the others. Bob Stone wrote: > Mark, > > Interesting post. My Dad was a union organizer back in the 30's, when > the cops hit you over the head for marching in a picket line. > So, I was raised in a very pro-union household. Even Mom was a Teamster. > > When I entered "show biz" as a writer/performer/puppeteer working for > a production company in New York that did corporate shows, I saw the > other side of unions. In certain cities, hotels, and convention > centers our non-union crew of projectionists, sound people, lighting > guys and performers were often bothered by union people demanding that > they have people assigned to the show to "stand by" while the show was > set up, run, and struck. In Chicago's McCormick Place we had to have > a union electrician "stand by" while i set up my gear . . .which was > proprietary so I knew they had never seen it before and had no idea > how to actually help with anything. Technically they were supposed to > plug in anything electrical, but of course i could never find them > when I actually had to fire up my gear. The clients got stuck with > the tab, of course, but it was all part of doing business. > > Currently, I KNOW that unions are necessary, absolutely, to give the > workers some equality in negotiations with management. However, too > often the rules become unnecessarily complex, and the waste introduced > by unions can cripple a show, or an entire industry. As with most > things in the world, there are both good and necessary aspects of > unions, as well as abuses of the power that they have. > > At 12:42 PM 11/29/2004, you wrote: > >> Had wanted to say something about unions (sort of) but had decided >> against it until the latest invitation was made (sort of). >> >> From the time I was a young actor working in equity houses to now it >> has seemed to me that when interested in "the work" (specifically >> theatre work including puppetry) unions were a bit counterproductive. >> >> I remember a union steward calling a break pretty much as a protest >> against the director as anything else. Certainly not for the sake of >> the actors. I also remember at this specific theatre that when a very >> well known actor brought a new group in to play in a show he was >> directing, they waived equity rules to allow notes being given after >> a paid performance.....they seemed to care about the product and the >> feeling was palatable. >> >> I remember doing a truck and bus tour where we were all non equity >> and when playing union houses, the union members had to set up the >> staging, even though they didn't know what they were doing. Also >> remember being told not to pick up a piece of string on the stage >> because a union man had to do that. >> >> I remember being told that the equity rates helped kill Bil Baird's >> theatre on Barrow street, although I believe that I read somewhere >> here that that was just an erroneous myth. >> >> I remember when bringing my staging into a union facility like a TV >> studio, the union people had to be directed on how to set it up...I >> couldn't touch it. >> >> I remember when a union (non theatre) almost shut down a professional >> that I was working for at the time as a grudge caused by an unhappy >> girlfriend. It was brutal! >> >> I know that when someone hires me for a video it is because they want >> me....(I charge much more then the going rate mentioned). Of course I >> don't get residuals. >> >> I am a live performer, those in the Philadelphia area know (of) me >> and some have seen my work. I actually prefer live over video I guess >> now in part because there are so many really good video performers >> out there. >> >> My favorite job though was a puppet on the radio host(ess)ing (it was >> a female character) a kid's sing - along program that unfortunately >> didn't go anywhere. It was a GREAT concept I actually brought the >> puppet into the sound studio and performed that way. I absolutely >> loved the idea of letting the audience's imagination create what they >> were seeing by listening. >> >> Sorry that this became long... >> >> Mark >> >> _______________________________________________ >> List address: puptcrit-AT-lists.driftline.org >> Admin interface: >> http://lists.driftline.org/listinfo.cgi/puptcrit-driftline.org > > > -Bob Stone > www.serious-comedy.com > _______________________________________________ > List address: puptcrit-AT-lists.driftline.org > Admin interface: > http://lists.driftline.org/listinfo.cgi/puptcrit-driftline.org > > > > _______________________________________________ List address: puptcrit-AT-lists.driftline.org Admin interface: http://lists.driftline.org/listinfo.cgi/puptcrit-driftline.org
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