Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2004 13:34:37 -0500 To: puptcrit-driftline.org-AT-lists.driftline.org Subject: [Puptcrit] Re: Puppets and Politics This list DOES deal with ideas, aspects and information about puppetry. I think that when puppets are used to convey a message with politics, religion, sex, or whatever, that the discussion is directly related to the "how's and why's of puppets as in handling, performance and building there of". However, I would agree the discussion should be about those puppets and their use, not the political view expressed or held. For instance, we can talk about the pro's and cons of Ax's Ronald Reagan vent figure without discussing the politics and policies of Reagan and whether or not we agree with them. A short opinion of personal view that gives the reader an idea of where an extreme slam or praise comes from is acceptable. A long rant or rave is less than desirable, as one man's rant may be another man's rave and vise versa. While I don't know that I agree exactly with your assertion of what comprises art, I would say that a LWDCParty discussion ONLY fits under your "FORM" and on this list if there are puppets (not counting any people as political puppets) used in some way. If this list were to ban all politics, even when related to puppets, there would be no "Bread and Puppet", no Punch and Judy, and few of the fairy and folk tales discussed in any way. I would agree that we sometimes get off on a tangent and lose the original connection to puppetry, but that is when the delete button comes in handy. No need to run away and stick your head in the sand, just hit the big "D" and move on. There is, after all, much more to this list than the occasional off topic threads. And let us not just say "Christian based" when we are talking about Religious based, as there are puppets used in other religious ways - Indian, Jewish, and so on. If you don't care for these discussions, again, the delete button is your friend. Christopher > On Dec 1, 2004, at 3:06 PM, Michael John Moynihan wrote: > I was under the impression that this list dealt with ideas, aspects > and information on the art of puppetry. > > All art is made up of three elements. > > 1) Subject Matter (the what) > 2) FORM (the how) > 3) CONTENT (the why) > > A left wing democratic communist party discussion fits handily under > the FORM (the how) portion. > Questions, answers and opinions on removing Latex or selling on eBay > would also come under that heading. > > Christian based puppetry, Fairy Tale adaptations to puppetry and > scripts with a Left Wing Democratic Communist Party point of view fit > nicely under the CONTENT (the why) portion. > _______________________________________________ List address: puptcrit-AT-lists.driftline.org Admin interface: http://lists.driftline.org/listinfo.cgi/puptcrit-driftline.org
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