File puptcrit/puptcrit.0412, message 31

Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2004 13:34:37 -0500
Subject: [Puptcrit] Re: Puppets and Politics

  This list DOES deal with ideas, aspects and information about 
puppetry. I think that when puppets are used to convey a message with 
politics, religion, sex, or whatever, that the discussion is directly 
related to the "how's and why's of puppets as in handling, performance 
and building there of". However, I would agree the discussion should be 
about those puppets and their use, not the political view expressed or 
held. For instance, we can talk about the pro's and cons of Ax's Ronald 
Reagan vent figure without discussing the politics and policies of 
Reagan and whether or not we agree with them. A short opinion of 
personal view that gives the reader an idea of where an extreme slam or 
praise comes from is acceptable. A long rant or rave is less than 
desirable, as one man's rant may be another man's rave and vise versa.
  While I don't know that I agree exactly with your assertion of what 
comprises art, I would say that a LWDCParty discussion ONLY fits under 
your "FORM" and on this list if there are puppets (not counting any 
people as political puppets) used in some way.
  If this list were to ban all politics, even when related to puppets, 
there would be no "Bread and Puppet", no Punch and Judy, and few of the 
fairy and folk tales discussed in any way. I would agree that we 
sometimes get off on a tangent and lose the original connection to 
puppetry, but that is when the delete button comes in handy. No need to 
run away and stick your head in the sand, just hit the big "D" and move 
on. There is, after all, much more to this list than the occasional off 
topic threads.
  And let us not just say "Christian based" when we are talking about 
Religious based, as there are puppets used in other religious ways - 
Indian, Jewish, and so on. If you don't care for these discussions, 
again, the delete button is your friend.

> On Dec 1, 2004, at 3:06 PM, Michael John Moynihan wrote:

> I was under the impression that this list dealt with ideas, aspects 
> and information on the art of puppetry.
> All art is made up of three elements.
> 1) Subject Matter (the what)
> 2) FORM (the how)
> 3) CONTENT (the why)
> A left wing democratic communist party discussion fits handily under 
> the FORM (the how) portion.
> Questions, answers and opinions on removing Latex or selling on eBay 
> would also come under that heading.
> Christian based puppetry, Fairy Tale adaptations to puppetry and 
> scripts with a Left Wing Democratic Communist Party point of view fit 
> nicely under the CONTENT (the why) portion.

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