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Subject: Re: [Puptcrit] Paper mache and Chiesatine 
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2005 07:41:18 +1000


Hey Mathieu,
Im always interested in new ideas, please forward the tute when completed if 
you dont mind.
The process of Chiesatine sounds very similar to a process used in Czech 
puppets for a long time, combinations of plaster, glues and open weave 
cotton in a negative mould then some carving to refine the character.
Friends of mine who make those animated Christmas Scenes use papier mache in 
negative moulds and then flood the heads with "no more gaps" an expanding 
foam in a pressure pack. Gives the items amazing strength with little weight 
gain.

Cheers

Daniel
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mathieu René" <creaturiste-AT-magma.ca>
To: <puptcrit-driftline.org-AT-lists.driftline.org>
Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2005 6:08 AM
Subject: [Puptcrit] Paper mache and Chiesatine


> Since Mary Robinette Kowal reccomended wood, I'm tempted to suggest paper 
> mache and Chiesatine, both great puppet making mediums, when used inside 
> negative moulds.
>
> Forget all the common opinions that PM is weak, uneven, rough, warps, and 
> is hard to control.
> It all depends on the recipe and approach you use, for your purpose.
>
> I've been experimenting with paper mache strips in negative plaster 
> moulds, and you can get amazing detailed results, provided you are patient 
> and meticulous for the first two layers.
>
>
>
> But the best, smoothest and lightest yet STRONG way I've tried is called 
> Chiesatine.
> A detailed yet EASY way of layering two types of cotton, bound together 
> with a mix of white glue and polyfilla. The cottons are simply the fluffy 
> absorbent cotton in sheet form, and cheescloth!
>
> I learned it in a maskmaking course last month.
> The resulting object is as smooth as the mould it comes from!
> It is smooth like plaster, sandable, and can easily take dyes!
>
> I'm writing a tutorial on this, but have not enough time right now to 
> finish it.
> So far, I've got 90% of the text down, but the pics are not embeded.
> 30 pages in WORD format so far. If anyone is interested in seeing the work 
> in progress, give me a sign.
>
> The name Chiesatine is not registered, and the "inventor" of it probably 
> doesn't even know the stuff is now called after him. The inventor is a 
> maskmaker from italy, his family name is Chiesa, and the medium's name was 
> made up by a maskmaker who learned the method from him.
> That person told us, in the course, that Chiesa was looking for a 
> substitue for leather, and came up with this.
>
>
> Mathieu René Créaturiste
> Marionnettes, Masques, Etcetera...
> Puppets, Masks, Etcetera...
> creaturiste-AT-magma.ca
> www.creaturiste.com
> (514) 274-8027
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Mary Robinette Kowal" <mary-AT-otherhandproductions.com>
> To: <puptcrit-driftline.org-AT-lists.driftline.org>
> Sent: Friday, September 23, 2005 1:40 PM
> Subject: Re: [Puptcrit] neoprene
>
>
>> Neoprene is great, Christopher, but have you tried wood?
>>
>> Mary Robinette Kowal
>> Other Hand Productions
>> http://www.otherhandproductions.com
>>
>> Angusson-AT-aol.com wrote:
>>
>>> SMOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOTH, Christopher....
>>>
>>>(I'm a paper maché/Styrofoam guy, myself...)
>>>
>>>Best,
>>>Fred Thompson
>>>
>>>
>>>heyhoot-AT-mindspring.com writes:
>>>
>>>>Gee, I hate to change the subject, but has anyone on this list heard of
>>>>neoprene? A mask maker I know has started using it and said I should
>>>>try it. Is it good for making puppets?
>>>>Christopher
>>>>
>>>>Christopher Hudert
>>>>Applause Unlimited
>>>>2824 Irisdale Avenue
>>>>Richmond, VA 23228
>>>>(804) 264-0299
>>>>www.applauseunlimited.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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