From: "Alan Cook" <alangregorycook-AT-msn.com> To: puptcrit-driftline.org-AT-lists.driftline.org Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2005 07:23:25 GMT Subject: [Puptcrit] politics affects puppeteers I''m sorry that some missed a point that whether you like it or not, we are ALL affected by politics as puppeteers, artists, citizens. I have seen street puppet shows on behalf of specific candidates or political issues on NYC and DC sidewalks. A number of puppeteers have performed at the White House (Bernard & Edith Paul in the 1930s, Bob Brown Marionettes and others later). George Washington saw puppets perform in Virginia. The Library of Congress had a photo showing Nazi officials in uniform attending a German puppet exhibit during WWII (the photo was war booty collected by the U.S. Army and I saw the photo in D.C. in 1979 or 1980. Mr Punch has made LOTS of political comments & so have companies like Bread & Puppets or Heart of the Beast. Just like the bigger theater forms, just like painting, sculpture and creative writers. Michelangelo was censored by the Vatican, English theatre by Cromwell, Czech puppets were censored by the Nazis and the Communists. The people in control did not want other viewpoints. But without different ways of looking at things , the arts are powerless and meaningless. Freedom does not exist in a void---it must be used and protected. And to do that, you cannot ignore politics, except at your own peril. ALAN COOK P.S. Some of my ancestors came to North America before there was a U.S.A. They were Huguenots fleeing France in order to stay alive. Later generations included Quakers who took religious freedom very seriously. I grew up among various Protestants who knew the origin of the word PROTESTants. I live next door to a family descended from Louisiana slaves. Without protests bad things rarely change. Puppets and puppeteers have contributed to protests throughout history, and I hope they continue to do so. -----Original Message----- From: puptcrit-driftline.org-request-AT-lists.driftline.org Sent: Fri, 23 Sep 2005 14:23:15 -0700 To: puptcrit-driftline.org-AT-lists.driftline.org Subject: Puptcrit-driftline.org Digest, Vol 11, Issue 37 Send Puptcrit-driftline.org mailing list submissions to =09puptcrit-driftline.org-AT-lists.driftline.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit =09http://lists.driftline.org/listinfo.cgi/puptcrit-driftline.org or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to =09puptcrit-driftline.org-request-AT-lists.driftline.org You can reach the person managing the list at =09puptcrit-driftline.org-owner-AT-lists.driftline.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Puptcrit-driftline.org digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Penny Pretzel seeks shows for new season (BiersBlackwood-AT-aol.com) 2. Re: sorry, apologies all (JIMPUP-AT-aol.com) 3. Re: sorry, apologies all (JIMPUP-AT-aol.com) 4. Re: sorry, apologies all (Mary Robinette Kowal) 5. Re: sorry, apologies all (BiersBlackwood-AT-aol.com) 6. Re: Ummmm...I think this is a PUPPET LIST! (Steve Axtell) 7. Paper mache and Chiesatine (Mathieu Ren?) 8. Noreen Young (puppets by) (Mathieu Ren?) 9. Atelier des Griffons (puppets by) (Mathieu Ren?) 10. Re: Help for Katrina - the Arts (Diane Kordas) 11. Re: neoprene (Christopher Hudert) 12. Re: Noreen Young (puppets by) (Cahebay-AT-aol.com) 13. RE: Various recent comments. (Will Stackman) 14. RE: sorry, apologies all (Johnthomasbell-AT-aol.com) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2005 15:10:50 EDT From: BiersBlackwood-AT-aol.com Subject: Re: [Puptcrit] Penny Pretzel seeks shows for new season To: puptcrit-driftline.org-AT-lists.driftline.org Message-ID: <203.acb4c1f.3065ad3a-AT-aol.com> Hey, and then perhaps I'd get a chance to see it, as I missed "Sixpence" in St Paul! Sean K. In a message dated 9/23/05 2:24:34 PM, Widerman-AT-aol.com writes: > > Hi Steve, > > Our children's marionette variety show is always available. We have worked > with you in the past. > > Also, for adults, I perform a show with Liz Joyce that is 20 minutes long > and was a big hit at the recent National Puppet Fest in St. Paul. > > -Steven-> > > Steven Widerman > ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2005 15:16:13 EDT From: JIMPUP-AT-aol.com Subject: Re: [Puptcrit] sorry, apologies all To: puptcrit-driftline.org-AT-lists.driftline.org Message-ID: <1b9.1c92a5bc.3065ae7d-AT-aol.com> I could not agree with Vince more. I would also like to see remarks =20 respectfully made. In addition, we should all be responsible enough to sing our messages. Jim ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2005 15:17:16 EDT From: JIMPUP-AT-aol.com Subject: Re: [Puptcrit] sorry, apologies all To: puptcrit-driftline.org-AT-lists.driftline.org Message-ID: <d2.31eab63d.3065aebc-AT-aol.com> Oops. That is sign our messages. ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2005 12:15:41 -0700 From: Mary Robinette Kowal <mary-AT-otherhandproductions.com> Subject: Re: [Puptcrit] sorry, apologies all To: puptcrit-driftline.org-AT-lists.driftline.org Message-ID: <4334545D.5040004-AT-otherhandproductions.com> I totally agree. I always try to sing my messages. I tend to favor bel=20 canto for some, although the folk style of the Appalachians works best=20 for others. Mary Robinette Kowal Other Hand Productions http://www.otherhandproductions.com JIMPUP-AT-aol.com wrote: >I could not agree with Vince more. I would also like to see remarks =20 >respectfully made. > >In addition, we should all be responsible enough to sing our messages. > >Jim >_______________________________________________ >List address: puptcrit-AT-lists.driftline.org >Admin interface: http://lists.driftline.org/listinfo.cgi/puptcrit-driftline.org >Archives: http://www.driftline.org > > > ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2005 15:21:31 EDT From: BiersBlackwood-AT-aol.com Subject: Re: [Puptcrit] sorry, apologies all To: puptcrit-driftline.org-AT-lists.driftline.org Message-ID: <1b9.1c9381a5.3065afbb-AT-aol.com> I had thought you meant we should "sing" our messages, which struck me as poetic, and in some ways preferable to signing them. Sean ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2005 12:17:29 -0700 From: Steve Axtell <steve-AT-axtell.com> Subject: Re: [Puptcrit] Ummmm...I think this is a PUPPET LIST! To: puptcrit-driftline.org-AT-lists.driftline.org Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20050923120055.055d49e0-AT-mail.axtell.com> N.O. is right now being hit again to greater destruction. Please stop this name calling and give a donation to help these people out. <https://secure1.salvationarmy.org/donations.nsf/donate?openform&projectid=USN-hurricane05>Salvation Army & <http://arc.convio.net/site/PageServer?pagename=ntld_main&s_src=rcohome800helpnow>Red Cross Ax At 09:14 PM 9/22/2005, you wrote: >Although I appreciate the dramatic effect these >events are having on your lives, I hardly think >that this is the place to espouse political >gratitudes but since you have opened pandoras >box......... Regardless of who is to blame the >rest of the world is witnessing the real face of >America coming to the fore....and it isnt a >pretty sight, Calouse, Rascist, Uncaring. >Louisiana is a state....NOT a sovereign >nation....The Louisiana NATIONAL Guard is >Louisiana's CONTRIBUTION TO the National Guard. >........ The Federal Government has all the >power it needs in these situations.....the power >to stop truck loads of fresh water being >delivered, the power to stop fuel being >provided, the power to disrupt state emergency >services communication, the power to cut funding >to an important levy, the power to stop >international emergency aid from arriving within >hours of the disaster occuring, the power to >stop relief work while the president views the >carnage from 30,000 ft........the power to stop >members of the Louisana National Guard, In Iraq >losing another war against another defenceless >sovereign nation, from returning home to look >for their Moms, Dads, Sisters, Children, Homes >by threatening them with summary execution for >desertion in the face of the enemy......(Funny >coming from a commander in chief whose ENTIRE >military record reads AWOL, Desertion, AWOL, >Desertion, and finally dishonourable discharge >for failing to report for active service....but Daddy took care of that....) >Isn't it time you people took off your star >spangled glasses and realised that when nearly >the whole world is wrong....maybe its YOU that >has the problem? Just a thought.... > >Daniel >_______________________________________________ >List address: puptcrit-AT-lists.driftline.org >Admin interface: >http://lists.driftline.org/listinfo.cgi/puptcrit-driftline.org >Archives: http://www.driftline.org Steve Axtell / Axtell Expressions, Inc. 805 642-7282 **************************************** <http://www.axtell.com>Amazing Puppet Characters Web Site New show "<http://www.axtelevision.com>AxTelevision" on DVD International <http://www.axtell.com/performers.html>Performer's Directory The original content of this email or attachments is 2005 Axtell Expressions, Inc. ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2005 16:08:26 -0400 From: Mathieu Ren? <creaturiste-AT-magma.ca> Subject: [Puptcrit] Paper mache and Chiesatine To: <puptcrit-driftline.org-AT-lists.driftline.org> Message-ID: <000601c5c07a$905ca160$8834f3c7-AT-critter1> =09reply-type=response Since Mary Robinette Kowal reccomended wood, I'm tempted to suggest paper mache and Chiesatine, both great puppet making mediums, when used inside=20 negative moulds. Forget all the common opinions that PM is weak, uneven, rough, warps, and is hard to control. It all depends on the recipe and approach you use, for your purpose. I've been experimenting with paper mache strips in negative plaster moulds, and you can get amazing detailed results, provided you are patient and=20 meticulous for the first two layers. But the best, smoothest and lightest yet STRONG way I've tried is called=20 Chiesatine. A detailed yet EASY way of layering two types of cotton, bound together with a mix of white glue and polyfilla. The cottons are simply the fluffy absorbent cotton in sheet form, and cheescloth! I learned it in a maskmaking course last month. The resulting object is as smooth as the mould it comes from! It is smooth like plaster, sandable, and can easily take dyes! I'm writing a tutorial on this, but have not enough time right now to finish it. So far, I've got 90% of the text down, but the pics are not embeded. 30 pages in WORD format so far. If anyone is interested in seeing the work in progress, give me a sign. The name Chiesatine is not registered, and the "inventor" of it probably=20 doesn't even know the stuff is now called after him. The inventor is a=20 maskmaker from italy, his family name is Chiesa, and the medium's name was made up by a maskmaker who learned the method from him. That person told us, in the course, that Chiesa was looking for a substitue for leather, and came up with this. Mathieu Ren Craturiste Marionnettes, Masques, Etcetera... Puppets, Masks, Etcetera... creaturiste-AT-magma.ca www.creaturiste.com (514) 274-8027 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Robinette Kowal" <mary-AT-otherhandproductions.com> To: <puptcrit-driftline.org-AT-lists.driftline.org> Sent: Friday, September 23, 2005 1:40 PM Subject: Re: [Puptcrit] neoprene > Neoprene is great, Christopher, but have you tried wood? > > Mary Robinette Kowal > Other Hand Productions > http://www.otherhandproductions.com > > Angusson-AT-aol.com wrote: > >> SMOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOTH, Christopher.... >> >>(I'm a paper mach/Styrofoam guy, myself...) >> >>Best, >>Fred Thompson >> >> >>heyhoot-AT-mindspring.com writes: >> >>>Gee, I hate to change the subject, but has anyone on this list heard of >>>neoprene? A mask maker I know has started using it and said I should >>>try it. Is it good for making puppets? >>>Christopher >>> >>>Christopher Hudert >>>Applause Unlimited >>>2824 Irisdale Avenue >>>Richmond, VA 23228 >>>(804) 264-0299 >>>www.applauseunlimited.com >>> >>> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>List address: puptcrit-AT-lists.driftline.org >>Admin interface: >>http://lists.driftline.org/listinfo.cgi/puptcrit-driftline.org >>Archives: http://www.driftline.org >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > List address: puptcrit-AT-lists.driftline.org > Admin interface: > http://lists.driftline.org/listinfo.cgi/puptcrit-driftline.org > Archives: http://www.driftline.org > ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2005 16:11:25 -0400 From: Mathieu Ren? <creaturiste-AT-magma.ca> Subject: [Puptcrit] Noreen Young (puppets by) To: <puptcrit-driftline.org-AT-lists.driftline.org> Message-ID: <000f01c5c07b$01206da0$8834f3c7-AT-critter1> =09reply-type=original http://www.noreenyoungproductions.com/ Thanks Mark, for sharing the link to her website! WOW! I've enjoyed her puppets on TV years ago, but didn't know who made them! Mathieu Ren Craturiste Marionnettes, Masques, Etcetera... Puppets, Masks, Etcetera... creaturiste-AT-magma.ca www.creaturiste.com (514) 274-8027 ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2005 16:12:43 -0400 From: Mathieu Ren? <creaturiste-AT-magma.ca> Subject: [Puptcrit] Atelier des Griffons (puppets by) To: <puptcrit-driftline.org-AT-lists.driftline.org> Message-ID: <001301c5c07b$2916fd10$8834f3c7-AT-critter1> http://www.atelierdesgriffons.com/ Check this other company of puppetmakers. I've visited one of their temporary studios beggining of the summer, and wow, they have the skills! DETAIL! Mathieu Ren Craturiste Marionnettes, Masques, Etcetera... Puppets, Masks, Etcetera... creaturiste-AT-magma.ca www.creaturiste.com (514) 274-8027 ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2005 16:45:57 -0400 From: Diane Kordas <diane-AT-romperrhythm.com> Subject: [Puptcrit] Re: Help for Katrina - the Arts To: puptcrit-driftline.org-AT-lists.driftline.org Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.0.20050923163802.02c8cd00-AT-mail.kordasmusic.com> I received this message from an acquaintance working in the shelters in LA - needing supplies for arts, etc. For those who don't know anyone in LA helping in the shelters or those who are victims, I decided to send the letter to the list. It gives a picture of what people are dealing with there, and a way we can help. I think accountability at all levels, rather than blame, is what is needed. But in the mean time, here's maybe a way to help. Puppets, art supplies needed. I also have info/organizations websites for those who want to donate to musicians/artists specifically, if so, let me know. Please- Forgive the long post. Diane Kordas www.romperrhythm.com From LA: The Hurricane saga continues. Last night our shelters got over 1000 more evacuees from Houston and Lake Charles, LA. We were in the shelter again today doing art with many children ages 3-18 who had come with this 2nd "diaspora" and were not yet enrolled in schools. We did art, we did music and we learned how to share and take turns and be nice to one another. These children crave love. It is heartbreaking. We went to our evening shelter location and we left because there is so much turmoil there now. Two weeks ago everyone had just settled in and all were getting along. People had their space and their neighbors. Now they are crowding hundreds of new evacuees in and there are literally turf wars going on. People are afraid to leave for fear their few belongings will be=20 stolen. Security is more present. There are even metal detectors in=20 one of the shelters. Now we are fearing Rita is headed straight for us. All schools have been cancelled tomorrow and all activities here this weekend have been cancelled. My assistant and I just broke down today. We are doing so much, but there is so much to do. Our hearts are so full. We are taking the weekend off to refuel. Judy Caplan Ginsburgh, Professional Singer <http://www.judymusic.com>www.judymusic.com Arts & Healthcare and Arts Education Coordinator Arts Council of Central Louisiana To send donations to help victims of Hurricane Katrina heal through the arts: We need art supplies, journals, pens, notebooks, Michaels gift certificates, CDs/tapes, portable players and headphones, monetary donations, etc. Send to: Arts Council Arts & Healthcare Initiaitive 1101 4th St., Suite 201 Alexandria, LA 71301 "I've learned that you shouldn't go through life with a catcher's mitt on both hands. You need to be able to throw something back." ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2005 17:09:53 -0400 From: Christopher Hudert <heyhoot-AT-mindspring.com> Subject: Re: [Puptcrit] neoprene To: puptcrit-driftline.org-AT-lists.driftline.org Message-ID: <62FDD782-2C76-11DA-834B-003065AB1E0A-AT-mindspring.com> Wood? How does one use that? I have been working mostly in stone, animal hide, bones and firelight in caves. Christopher On Sep 23, 2005, at 1:40 PM, Mary Robinette Kowal wrote: > Neoprene is great, Christopher, but have you tried wood? > > Mary Robinette Kowal > Other Hand Productions > http://www.otherhandproductions.com > > Angusson-AT-aol.com wrote: > >> SMOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOTH, Christopher.... >> >> (I'm a paper mach/Styrofoam guy, myself...) >> >> Best, >> Fred Thompson >> >> >> heyhoot-AT-mindspring.com writes: >> >>> Gee, I hate to change the subject, but has anyone on this list heard=20 >>> of >>> neoprene? A mask maker I know has started using it and said I should >>> try it. Is it good for making puppets? >>> Christopher >>> >>> Christopher Hudert >>> Applause Unlimited >>> 2824 Irisdale Avenue >>> Richmond, VA 23228 >>> (804) 264-0299 >>> www.applauseunlimited.com >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> List address: puptcrit-AT-lists.driftline.org >> Admin interface: >> http://lists.driftline.org/listinfo.cgi/puptcrit-driftline.org >> Archives: http://www.driftline.org >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > List address: puptcrit-AT-lists.driftline.org > Admin interface: > http://lists.driftline.org/listinfo.cgi/puptcrit-driftline.org > Archives: http://www.driftline.org > ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2005 17:09:28 EDT From: Cahebay-AT-aol.com Subject: Re: [Puptcrit] Noreen Young (puppets by) To: puptcrit-driftline.org-AT-lists.driftline.org Message-ID: <8c.2ff3e8e7.3065c908-AT-aol.com> In a message dated 9/23/2005 5:01:34 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, creaturiste-AT-magma.ca writes: http://www.noreenyoungproductions.com/ Thanks Mark, for sharing the link to her website! WOW! I've enjoyed her puppets on TV years ago, but didn't know who made them! She also sells an Instructional DVD, sold by a third party as well as=20 selling the kits needed to make them Regards, Mark _Professional Puppet Builders Guild_ (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pro_puppetbuilder) A discussion list on the Building of Professional Hand and Rod Puppets - Join this New list for POA members ------------------------------ Message: 13 Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2005 14:14:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Will Stackman <profwlll-AT-yahoo.com> Subject: [Puptcrit] RE: Various recent comments. To: puptcrit-driftline.org-AT-lists.driftline.org Message-ID: <20050923211447.1118.qmail-AT-web51701.mail.yahoo.com> 1) Making difficulties for foreign artists getting visas goes back as far as the Reagan Administration for various reasons related to appeasing show biz interests. It's only gotten worse as bureaucracy has hardened into place. Talk to native Canadian performers who've been shut off from performing on this side. 2) The Philadelphia fiasco was orchestrated by Pennsylvania paranoids, one of whom was rewarded by being put in charge of Homeland Security. Is anyone surprized at the mess its in? 3) Even if you don't agree with Jim Gamble, his opinions and observations are always worth listening to. He's literally been around. For reviews by Will Stackman, go to ON THE AISLE at http://profwill.spymac.net __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Message: 14 Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2005 17:23:06 EDT From: Johnthomasbell-AT-aol.com Subject: RE: [Puptcrit] sorry, apologies all To: <puptcrit-driftline.org-AT-lists.driftline.org> Message-ID: <129.65fb8733.3065cc3a-AT-aol.com> I think it's worth keeping in mind that this discussion started off about a very real problem/challenge for puppet theater: the Thai puppeteers who weren't allowed into our country. That challenge for American puppet theater still remains and is worth thinking about; it affects who we are and who we will be. It's probably possible to discuss such important issues with different points of view, and not get too personal. That would be great, I think.... jbell ********** Hi All, The great thing about puptcrit is the ability for everyone to be heard. I don't always agree with what is said but I agree with the right to say it. We can all exercise our right to use the delete button or respond with respect. Vince Anthony ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ List address: puptcrit-AT-lists.driftline.org Admin interface: http://lists.driftline.org/listinfo.cgi/puptcrit-driftline.org Archives: http://www.driftline.org End of Puptcrit-driftline.org Digest, Vol 11, Issue 37 ****************************************************** _______________________________________________ List address: puptcrit-AT-lists.driftline.org Admin interface: http://lists.driftline.org/listinfo.cgi/puptcrit-driftline.org Archives: http://www.driftline.org
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