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Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2005 04:07:20 GMT
Subject: [Puptcrit] Tobi Knight interviews, Sept 28


Tobi Knight has invited me to KOST, 103.5 FM Los Angeles on her once-a-week interview show Wednesday, Sept. 28 at 12:00 Noon. She has previously visited the Conservatory of Puppetry Arts in Pasadena, and impressed me with her easy interviewing skills on that visit.

With recent discussions on problems of mailing publicity for puppet shows I wondered if other areas might make room on radio for local interviews Have other critters done this sort of thing??----ALAN COOK

P.S.-I agree with Steve Axtell--CORPSE BRIDE has great visual interest, smooth animation, good camera moves. A lot of artistry and planning and patience went into this movie.

The current and immediately previous copies of ANIMATION Magazine featured stop-motion puppets on the covers (Corpse Bride and the new Wallace & Gromit feature coming soon.)

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Today's Topics:

   1. projection question (Yvette Edery)
   2. Re: projection question (Mathieu Ren?)
   3. Re: projection question (Freshwater Pearls Puppetry)
   4. Re: wood and cathersis (wayong-AT-aol.com)
   5. Re: wood and cathersis (Kismet)
   6. Re: wood and cathersis (Mathieu Ren?)
   7. Mailing puppet publicity (Alan Cook)


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2005 12:35:53 -0700 (PDT)
From: Yvette Edery <art_goo-AT-yahoo.com>
Subject: [Puptcrit] projection question
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Hi Friends,

I have a projection equipment question:

to do video projection during a live theatrical
performance, what kind of equipment/methods can people
recommend?

thanks,

Yvette Edery

ArtistrYE Productions
Puppetry for Film, Television, and Theater
www.artistrye.com

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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2005 16:17:08 -0400
From: Mathieu Ren? <creaturiste-AT-magma.ca>
Subject: Re: [Puptcrit] projection question
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The most portable thing I've seen for projections is a laptop connected to a
digital projector, the kind used for presentations in schools.

The only glitch is that most models I've seen in schools aren't that great
at relaying detail in highly lit areas of the images. Highlights look white.
There must be better equipement out there.


Mathieu Ren Craturiste
Marionnettes, Masques, Etcetera...
Puppets, Masks, Etcetera...
creaturiste-AT-magma.ca
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2005 15:44:09 -0500
From: Freshwater Pearls Puppetry <freshwaterpearls-AT-comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Puptcrit] projection question
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I've just spent a fair amoung of time researching digital projectors. I plan to purchase one for use in a new show.

I learned that, as with any complicated piece of equipment, there are several types of technology in use, many features to consider, and a wide range of prices. All of these affect the ultimate quality of the projected image. Resolution, lamp brightness, contrast, and LCD vs DLP technology are some of the most important considerations.

A good informational web site is http://www.projectorcentral.com/home.cfm . There you can learn more about what's available, what the various features and technologies are, and what type of projector will best fit your needs. Their "Find Projectors" page will take you to reviews of current models, as well as provide links to explanations of important terms and features.

Regards,
Diane

http://www.freshwaterpearlspuppetry.com

|The only glitch is that most models I've seen in schools aren't that great
|at relaying detail in highly lit areas of the images. Highlights look white.
|There must be better equipement out there.
|
|


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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2005 17:13:00 -0400
From: wayong-AT-aol.com
Subject: Re: [Puptcrit] wood and cathersis
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I've always wanted to try my hand at carving puppets out of wood myself.  I prefer paper mache & various clays myself, as I have to limit my materials to methods that are safe & don't take up too much space.

 But hey, I prefer puppets of ANY material over propaganda perpetuated by any folks on the extreme sides of the spectrum. If you want to think about politics or the recent events, think about how various artists and writers demonstrated how people would react in extreme situations: for example,
"Blindness" by Saramago and "Divided Kingdom" by Thompson are wonderful examples of humanity gone to the extreme. Imagine the same effort of lecturing can go into productive use by creating a novel, a poem or a puppet play!

Wayong


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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2005 08:26:13 +1000
From: "Kismet" <kismet-AT-bigpond.net.au>
Subject: Re: [Puptcrit] wood and cathersis
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Wayong wrote:
"Imagine the same effort of lecturing can go into productive use by creating
a novel, a poem or a puppet play!"
Thanks Wayong, Its an interesting point you raise here  but I have to ask
you one question.....

Were the works "Blindness" or "Divided Kingdom" (neither of which I am=20
familiar with but I think I get the gist of your direction) conceived and
nurtured in an apolitical vaccum? or were the artists "naivists" and
un-informed?
Most works of art reflect the life experiences, the literacy and the
considered opinions of the artists. The praxis an artist brings to their=20
work ISNT a result of genes or a gift from God but (hopefully and not=20
always) a process of assimilation, education, definition and experience,=20
they dont develop in a vaccum and they certainly dont remain static.
Critical debate, rather than name calling and pusilanimous disparagment is
the refining fire that guides the artist in the maturing of their practice.
Although Puptcrit is a forum for craftspeople it is also a discussion list
for artists and as such provides an important platform for the nurturing of
an artists sophistication. It reaches far beyond what glue to use to why and
where are we going with our arts practise and this CANNOT and MUST NOT=20
happen in a sterile and uninformed environment.

Ill stop my "lecturing" now and hope for intelligent, insightful and
hopefully critical debate.

Thank You

Daniel



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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2005 19:32:47 -0400
From: Mathieu Ren? <creaturiste-AT-magma.ca>
Subject: Re: [Puptcrit] wood and cathersis
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Thanks Daniel.
Most intructive.

I tend to forget that I like intelligent debates, and that name callings are
too often mistaken as good arguments to fuel an enlightening conversation..

Too often, aggressive arguments are taken as personal attacks while in fact
they are just healthy manifestations of one's passions for own convictions.

I'm all for debates.
Not name calling or personal attacks.




Mathieu Ren Craturiste
Marionnettes, Masques, Etcetera...
Puppets, Masks, Etcetera...
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www.creaturiste.com
(514) 274-8027



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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2005 02:25:31 GMT
From: "Alan Cook" <alangregorycook-AT-msn.com>
Subject: [Puptcrit] Mailing puppet publicity
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Remember that this week the US Postal Service FINALLY releases their 11 new stamps, 10 Muppets and one Jim Henson stamp. They are all on one sheet and  go for a bit over $4. For special mailings they can be an added attention grabber, and in full sheet are eminently frameable. They should be released  across the country Sept 28 according to recent announcements. I have not verified, but believe FIRST DAY OF ISSUE is Tuesday in North Hollywood CA, 91601 (The Post Office on Chandler, just a block west of Lankershim.)

Originally the stamp sheet was set for release in March 2005. Jumbo postcards will be available with the stamp designs in a kit for about $17 and will require the addition of the 37 cent stamp.---ALAN COOK

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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Stop Mtion (Karen Larsen)
   2. Re: Marketing on the internet (Susan VandeWeghe)
   3. Re: Marketing on the internet (Robert Rogers)
   4. Re: Corpse Bride / Stop Mtion (brianw2-AT-brianwindsor.com)
   5. Re: Marketing on the internet (Susan Wall Kronenberg)
   6. Re: Marketing on the internet (Squid Netscape)


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2005 11:00:54 -0400
From: Karen Larsen <karenlarsen-AT-earthlink.net>
Subject: [Puptcrit] Re: Stop Mtion
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Message-ID: <BF5D8566.7D81%karenlarsen-AT-earthlink.net>

Greetings from the northeast where it's finally beginning to feel like fall.

Some of our friends in the very puppet friendly film collective Handcranked
Films <www.handcrankedfilm.com> have done stop motion and those films are
often shown in Boston and elsewhere. They create a wide range of stop
motion, some based on 2D and some 3D.   Bryan Papciak (who teaches at RISD)
and Jeff Sias both worked for a while at the late lamented Olive Jar Studios
which also did stop motion.  They teach stop motion workshops sometimes at
Northeast/Mid-Atlantic and national PofA festivals, and I highly recommend
taking one of their workshops if you get a chance. And the website is worth
a visit from anyone at all interested in handmade film.

Can't wait to see the Burton film myself sometime soon.  I've been a fan of
the form since childhood (I'm old enough to have been brought up on Gumby
before it was retro) and my interest was rekindled years ago by a film
collective called "Off The Wall Cinema" that operated for years in back
rooms and alternative venues around Boston. In fact, between The Museum
School, Mass College of Art (the only publicly funded art college in the
nation ), RISD , and a slew of Art colleges and collectives, animation and
alternative puppetry on film are very much a "living art" in our area.

Cheers!

Karen




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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2005 11:48:41 -0400
From: Susan VandeWeghe <vanpuppet-AT-citcom.net>
Subject: Re: [Puptcrit] Marketing on the internet
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There is no bulk rate discount for 4 x 6 postcards.  Since I am not a
not-for-profit organization I can't get the not for profit rate.  I do have
a first class imprint so at least I don't have to put stamps on all those
postcards.

For regular size bulk rate there is a $150 charge per year so I would need
to send out about 1,500 before it makes any difference. Of course, if I sent
this out from a mail service there would be no $150 charge for me.  But I am
not sure that bulk rate material gets there in a timely manner.  Asheville
Puppetry Alliance (which is a not-for-profit) does use a mail service and I
always send a couple of test pieces when we send out a mailing.  Sometime
the test pieces take a couple of weeks to get there.  Ask Kurt Hunter about
his last mailing to the membership about the festival.  Some of the members
got it in August - after the festival was over.

The postmistress at my little post office is always suggesting that I use
the post office printing/postage/mailing service.  Has anyone used it?  Is
it cost effective? Of course then I wouldn't have the extra postcards to
hand out when I am doing shows.

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Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2005 2:28 PM
Subject: Re: [Puptcrit] Marketing on the internet


> At 9/25/2005  Sunday  02:03 PM, you wrote:
>
> >  Postage is
> >just eating up my marketing budget.  I just spent $275 on 5,000 postcards
> >and $1,000 to mail them.
>
> Looks like you paid full price.  Are you using a mailing service that
> handles bulk mail?  With 5000 postcards, you should be able to mail
> them for far less than 20 cents each.
>
> Peter
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2005 12:00:09 -0400
From: "Robert Rogers" <robertrogers-AT-frontiernet.net>
Subject: Re: [Puptcrit] Marketing on the internet
To: <puptcrit-driftline.org-AT-lists.driftline.org>
Message-ID: <000601c5c2b3$5f9baea0$acd5d7aa-AT-puppet>
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Don't forget that brochures sent via the post office often stay in the=20
folders or desk drawers of the people you sent them to for years.  It's=20
surprising, but people sometimes take years to respond.  But at least, they
do.  E-mails disappear.

Robert Rogers



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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2005 09:54:11 -0700 (PDT)
From: brianw2-AT-brianwindsor.com
Subject: Re: [Puptcrit] Corpse Bride / Stop Mtion
To: puptcrit-driftline.org-AT-lists.driftline.org
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I haven't seen it yet, but it's at the top of my list.  To find out more
about stop motion, awn.com has a pretty good article by the co-director
(Mike Johnson) and a lot of nice images at the end.
(http://mag.awn.com/index.php?ltype=pageone&article_no=2633)  There is
also a good stop motion book by Susannah Shaw.  The book has information
on how to sculpt the heads, make the inner skeleton, etc. that any
puppeteer would find interesting.  Just go to amazon.com and type in stop
motion for a search and it will be the first thing to pop up.  Rednose
Studios also has some interesting stuff (http://www.rednosestudio.com/).=20
I like the look of the stop motion puppets that he makes/uses.

The only stop motion I did was using my son's Darth Vader, a video camera
directly connected into my PC by firewire, and the software that came with
it to grab individual pictures and then put them together to make a movie
out of it.  It was fun, but I could easily see how tedious it would be and
see how much artistry goes into it just from playing with it in the
basement, and that's just the camera and motion side of things...I didn't
even have to make any special puppets.  You could do some fairly easy toy
theater pieces this way.

-Brian


> Wow!  We went to see the Corpse Bride movie last
> night.  Tim Burton and crew have really done an
> amazing job with stop motion puppetry
> again.  This one breaks new ground.  I am sure
> Cinefex magazine will be featuring this.   A few
> points without ruining the clever story....the
> characters are outstanding in design and variety.
> Music is wonderful.    The piano the characters
> play was labeled a Ray Harryhausen
> brand.  (Another tribute to the great stop motion genius.)
>
> Has anyone here ever tried stop motion
> puppetry?   I've helped make one very short stop
> motion scene with a crew of 10 for Comedy Central
> and it was amazingly tedious.   Corpse Bride was
> just overwhelming to watch.  The size of the feet
> on many characters were so small ....like long
> jointed pencil legs with almost no feet.    How
> do you plant those feet on the stage stabilizing
> the character seamlessly between frames while
> making the necessary pose changes and head
> replacements?  Too much to talk about....truly
> impressive work.  I'll see this movie MANY times.
>
> Two major studios doing SM puppet movies at the
> same time right now.   Refreshing in a market
> where everything is Computer Generated animation.
>
> DreamWorks Wallace and Grommit - "Curse of
> Were-Rabbit".   http://www.dreamworksanimation.com/
> (haven't seen this one yet)
>
> Warner Brothers "Corpse Bride"
> http://pdl.warnerbros.com/wbmovies/corpsebride/flashsite/main.html
>
> Ax
>
> Steve Axtell / Axtell Expressions, Inc.   805 642-7282
> ****************************************
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2005 14:42:14 -0400
From: Susan Wall Kronenberg <susan-AT-carouselpuppets.com>
Subject: Re: [Puptcrit] Marketing on the internet
To: puptcrit-driftline.org-AT-lists.driftline.org
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.0.20050926143214.01df1ea8-AT-mail.nova.org>

We are also not a "not-for-profit," but we have found one way of keeping=20
some of the costs down.  We go to a mailing agency.  We give them our=20
mailing list on disc. They print the address on our brochures, and allow us
to use their bulk rate.  We save the price of labels, computer ink and our
time of labeling and sorting.  Most of the mail gets delivered in a timely
manner...usually within the week.

Susan



At 11:48 AM 9/26/2005, you wrote:
>There is no bulk rate discount for 4 x 6 postcards.  Since I am not a
>not-for-profit organization I can't get the not for profit rate.  I do have
>a first class imprint so at least I don't have to put stamps on all those
>postcards.
>
>For regular size bulk rate there is a $150 charge per year so I would need
>to send out about 1,500 before it makes any difference. Of course, if I sent
>this out from a mail service there would be no $150 charge for me.  But I am
>not sure that bulk rate material gets there in a timely manner.  Asheville
>Puppetry Alliance (which is a not-for-profit) does use a mail service and I
>always send a couple of test pieces when we send out a mailing.  Sometime
>the test pieces take a couple of weeks to get there.  Ask Kurt Hunter about
>his last mailing to the membership about the festival.  Some of the members
>got it in August - after the festival was over.
>
>The postmistress at my little post office is always suggesting that I use
>the post office printing/postage/mailing service.  Has anyone used it?  Is
>it cost effective? Of course then I wouldn't have the extra postcards to
>hand out when I am doing shows.
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Peter Kronenberg" <pak-AT-carouselpuppets.com>
>To: <puptcrit-driftline.org-AT-lists.driftline.org>
>Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2005 2:28 PM
>Subject: Re: [Puptcrit] Marketing on the internet
>
>
> > At 9/25/2005  Sunday  02:03 PM, you wrote:
> >
> > >  Postage is
> > >just eating up my marketing budget.  I just spent $275 on 5,000 postcards
> > >and $1,000 to mail them.
> >
> > Looks like you paid full price.  Are you using a mailing service that
> > handles bulk mail?  With 5000 postcards, you should be able to mail
> > them for far less than 20 cents each.
> >
> > Peter
> >
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2005 11:51:41 -0700
From: Squid Netscape <timcalamari3-AT-netscape.net>
Subject: Re: [Puptcrit] Marketing on the internet
To: puptcrit-driftline.org-AT-lists.driftline.org
Message-ID: <4338433D.70200-AT-netscape.net>

Sadly,
The internet is a part of the whole of marketing. You still need to use=20
the phone. You still have to send bits of dead tree to people expressing=20
how wonderful your new season is. If you're a theater you still have to=20
make a poster, advertise in the newspaper and still people don't come,=20
or call, or, or.....Will this ever change? Nope. Do you have to do all=20
of the work? Yes. Do you get points off for typo's? Yes and bad penmanship.
Tim
Il Teatro Calamari
http://teatrocalamari.com
puppets, mask, stuff for a bunch of people.


vanpuppet-AT-citcom.net wrote:

>New Subject
>
>Over the past 4 or 5 years I have been doing a good part of my marketing by
>e-mail.
>But I don't believe that the e-mails are getting to the person I am sending
>them to any longer.
>
>Festival Network Online is a great place to find festivals in the area where
>you perform. FNO list the people in charge, the address, phone and e-mail
>for each festival. Can't believe that people who publish an e-mail address
>for a festival will not open an e-mail addressed to the festival or person
>in charge.  Aren't they publishing the e-mail just for that purpose?
>
>It sure is cheaper, although much more time consuming, to send the
>information
>out by e-mail. (I do not send e-mails to groups of people.  Everything I
>send out is to an individual and addressed to them personally.)  Postage is
>just eating up my marketing budget.  I just spent $275 on 5,000 postcards
>and $1,000 to mail them.  This was my school mailing - yes, I know it is
>late - and I have e-mail addresses for about half those schools. I had send
>many of those schools e-mails earlier in the year but did not get many
>replies.  After talking to a number of those teachers and principles, I
>figure that they didn't get them and that sending the e-mails was a waste of
>time.
>
>So how are you all handling marketing on the internet?
>
>Susan
>
>Mountain Marionettes
>www.mountainmarionettes.com
>
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